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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: oragefan vs Lukan]
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  Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2015
  Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
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]
GN[oragefan-Lukan(B) IGS]RE[B+3.5]
PW[oragefan]WR[6d?]NW[34]
PB[Lukan]BR[5d?]NB[33]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2015-01-18]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[1Min_After_Done]
C[
 Lukan 5d?: 112 have a nice game!
 oragefan 6d?: 112 have good game
]
;B[qd]BL[3585]
;W[pp]WL[3593]
;B[dc]BL[3564]
;W[cp]WL[3585]
;B[ep]BL[3486]
;W[de]WL[3580]
;B[cq]BL[3445]
;W[fd]WL[3570]
;B[oc]BL[3254]
;W[eb]WL[3556]
;B[be]BL[3180]
;W[cd]WL[3552]
;B[ci]BL[3131]
;W[bq]WL[3447]
;B[dq]BL[3115]
;W[cn]WL[3445]
;B[br]BL[2932]
;W[ck]WL[3443]
;B[bd]BL[2930]
;W[cc]WL[3441]
;B[df]BL[2883]
;W[ef]WL[3361]
;B[ce]BL[2874]
;W[dd]WL[3356]
;B[dg]BL[2865]
;W[qn]WL[3332]
;B[jq]BL[2601]
;W[qi]WL[3099]
;B[kc]BL[2485]
;W[lq]WL[3090]C[
 Lukan 5d?: 65 sorry, connection
 oragefan 6d?: 65 np
]
;B[nq]BL[2308]
;W[np]WL[2998]
;B[op]BL[2261]
;W[oq]WL[2996]
;B[oo]BL[2237]
;W[po]WL[2989]
;B[mp]BL[1934]
;W[no]WL[2986]
;B[on]BL[1931]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: is this reading mistake by black ?:)
]
;W[mq]WL[2785]
;B[nr]BL[1922]
;W[or]WL[2783]
;B[mn]BL[1842]
;W[mo]WL[2781]
;B[lo]BL[1837]
;W[lp]WL[2779]
;B[nn]BL[1836]
;W[mp]WL[2779]
;B[ko]BL[1822]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: Interesting sacrifice play ^^ it will be interesting game ;)
]
;W[ql]WL[2760]C[
 fab 4d?: it will be very hard for black to use this wall, whiet has solid groups everywhere and has enough points already so he won't be forced to invade anywhere
]
;B[em]BL[1670]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah because that i don't like these two stones sacrificing....
 YoungPro 5d?: now there no corner aji...
]
;W[jr]WL[2644]
;B[kr]BL[1495]
;W[kq]WL[2563]
;B[lr]BL[1465]
;W[mr]WL[2559]
;B[kp]BL[1455]
;W[ns]WL[2558]
;B[iq]BL[1417]
;W[ir]WL[2539]
;B[hr]BL[1410]
;W[ls]WL[2384]
;B[is]BL[1402]
;W[ks]WL[2382]
;B[hp]BL[1341]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: 6,5 komi ?
]
;W[cj]WL[2231]C[
 fab 4d?: sure, game settings are wrong, but they will correct the result at the end
]
;B[ej]BL[1131]
;W[bi]WL[2222]
;B[ch]BL[1124]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: so the game is not that bad at all :)
 YoungPro 5d?: its almost even result i think
]
;W[en]WL[2100]C[
 fab 4d?: I don't know, I still prefer white, using such walls to make territory in the center isn't easy
 YoungPro 5d?: i am takemiya fan so i guess its even ;)
 YoungPro 5d?: its not easy but who say its impossible ?
]
;B[dm]BL[1043]
;W[bo]WL[2095]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: b fall into trap ...
]
;B[dn]BL[1012]
;W[ic]WL[2039]C[
 fab 4d?: white doesn't even care about reducing ;)
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah because its too big and white can play whenever he want ;)
 YoungPro 5d?: n11 maybe ?
 fab 4d?: if we imagine a box shape for black going to K10, all black's bottom and center is still less han 50 points
]
;B[qg]BL[872]
;W[oi]WL[2014]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: m11 now :D
 YoungPro 5d?: i just use my imagination... :)
]
;B[mj]BL[721]
;W[kd]WL[1944]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: this game will be really interesting :) isn't right r16 and p17 base = r3 points ? :) not exactly but w+5 maybe ?
]
;B[ld]BL[413]
;W[jd]WL[1942]
;B[ji]BL[391]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: i am bad at counting but isn't black ahead ?
]
;W[hi]WL[1905]
;B[hj]BL[281]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: b-71 ? w-74,5?
]
;W[gj]WL[1875]
;B[hk]BL[248]C[
 fab 4d?: J11 now ?
]
;W[lc]WL[1849]
;B[mc]BL[226]
;W[lb]WL[1845]C[
 fab 4d?: white a bit less than 40 at right, 10 at left, 20+ at top
]
;B[le]BL[200]
;W[mb]WL[1814]C[
 fab 4d?: black about 20 in top right, 5 at left, about 50 t boom and center
]
;B[nb]BL[186]
;W[md]WL[1812]
;B[nc]BL[184]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: black is going to get sente ? :)
 fab 4d?: I don't know wht really happens in the H13 area
]
;W[kb]WL[1736]
;B[pj]BL[38]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: right time !!!!! ^_^
]
;W[qj]WL[1627]
;B[pi]BL[568]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: i am interested what is fan hui face now ...
 YoungPro 5d?: maybe m17 cut was bad ?:)
]
;W[pk]WL[1452]
;B[oj]BL[563]C[
 YoungPro 5d?: huh ? how many good moves are here ?
 Lukan 5d?: 65 sorry,  touchpad, misslick...
 oragefan 6d?: 65 ok
]
;W[nk]WL[1447]
;B[nj]BL[537]
;W[qh]WL[1444]
;B[pg]BL[504]
;W[ph]WL[1438]
;B[oh]BL[496]
;W[rg]WL[1364]
;B[rf]BL[491]
;W[kf]WL[1321]
;B[lf]BL[258]
;W[ii]WL[1287]
;B[jj]BL[249]
;W[kh]WL[1125]
;B[jh]BL[228]
;W[lg]WL[1122]
;B[jg]BL[215]
;W[ne]WL[1034]
;B[mg]BL[162]
;W[kg]WL[847]
;B[mf]BL[156]
;W[ek]WL[835]
;B[dk]BL[121]
;W[dj]WL[824]
;B[dl]BL[116]
;W[bk]WL[820]
;B[ei]BL[95]
;W[gh]WL[745]
;B[gk]BL[68]
;W[nh]WL[619]
;B[og]BL[56]
;W[mk]WL[602]
;B[lk]BL[42]
;W[ll]WL[553]
;B[ml]BL[41]
;W[ok]WL[499]
;B[lj]BL[35]
;W[mm]WL[492]
;B[lm]BL[30]
;W[nl]WL[484]
;B[kl]BL[29]
;W[mh]WL[458]
;B[rh]BL[18]
;W[ng]WL[442]
;B[nf]BL[17]
;W[ar]WL[357]
;B[ri]BL[5]
;W[rj]WL[354]
;B[bc]BL[540]
;W[bb]WL[340]
;B[ee]BL[458]
;W[ed]WL[338]
;B[gf]BL[407]
;W[fg]WL[302]
;B[if]BL[377]
;W[di]WL[189]
;B[eh]BL[348]
;W[eg]WL[169]
;B[dh]BL[322]
;W[ge]WL[166]
;B[bs]BL[258]
;W[of]WL[153]
;B[oe]BL[244]
;W[pf]WL[80]
;B[qf]BL[228]
;W[do]WL[71]
;B[eo]BL[220]
;W[cr]WL[70]
;B[dr]BL[204]
;W[bg]WL[69]
;B[bh]BL[198]
;W[ah]WL[66]
;B[ab]BL[193]
;W[ba]WL[63]
;B[bf]BL[135]
;W[jf]WL[46]
;B[gg]BL[98]
;W[fh]WL[34]
;B[he]BL[85]
;W[hd]WL[31]
;B[cg]BL[76]
;W[cm]WL[29]
;B[ag]BL[64]
;W[ai]WL[27]
;B[dp]BL[56]
;W[co]WL[21]
;B[pm]BL[43]
;W[qm]WL[14]
;B[cl]BL[38]
;W[bl]WL[12]
;B[ie]BL[24]
;W[fj]WL[593]
;B[fk]BL[22]
;W[na]WL[586]
;B[oa]BL[20]
;W[ma]WL[585]
;B[pe]BL[2]
;W[ki]WL[553]
;B[kj]BL[534]
;W[hg]WL[546]
;B[ig]BL[528]
;W[si]WL[526]
;B[sg]BL[522]
;W[ni]WL[524]
;B[fi]BL[506]
;W[gi]WL[521]
;B[id]BL[456]
;W[jc]WL[517]
;B[ff]BL[453]
;W[fe]WL[515]
;B[hf]BL[452]
;W[ij]WL[510]
;B[ik]BL[448]
;W[hh]WL[509]
;B[ml]BL[412]
;W[js]WL[499]
;B[hs]BL[398]
;W[ll]WL[497]
;B[cb]BL[364]
;W[db]WL[494]
;B[ml]BL[355]
;W[nm]WL[492]
;B[pl]BL[339]
;W[sj]WL[489]
;B[sh]BL[327]
;W[ll]WL[488]
;B[qk]BL[312]
;W[rk]WL[486]
;B[ml]BL[311]
;W[pn]WL[484]
;B[om]BL[305]
;W[ll]WL[483]
;B[mi]BL[292]
;W[lh]WL[482]
;B[ml]BL[291]
;W[pb]WL[481]
;B[ob]BL[285]
;W[ll]WL[480]
;B[bp]BL[240]
;W[ap]WL[477]
;B[ml]BL[236]
;W[sf]WL[598]
;B[se]BL[232]
;W[ll]WL[590]
;B[aj]BL[218]
;W[bj]WL[588]
;B[ml]BL[217]
;W[af]WL[586]
;B[ae]BL[596]
;W[ll]WL[584]
;B[bm]BL[595]
;W[am]WL[582]
;B[ml]BL[585]
;W[ln]WL[574]
;B[kn]BL[576]
;W[ll]WL[571]
;B[al]BL[571]
;W[bn]WL[568]
;B[ml]BL[567]
;W[ac]WL[567]
;B[ad]BL[556]
;W[ll]WL[558]
;B[an]BL[544]
;W[ao]WL[555]
;B[ml]BL[542]
;W[gq]WL[553]
;B[hq]BL[540]
;W[ll]WL[550]
;B[ih]BL[535]
;W[ee]WL[548]
;B[ml]BL[534]
;W[fm]WL[522]
;B[fn]BL[527]
;W[ll]WL[521]
;B[gd]BL[521]
;W[hc]WL[519]
;B[ml]BL[519]
;W[el]WL[518]
;B[fl]BL[518]
;W[ll]WL[517]
;B[ln]BL[505]
;W[ml]WL[515]
;B[cs]BL[500]
;W[aq]WL[513]
;B[ac]BL[498]
;W[ca]WL[512]
;B[ol]BL[494]
;W[qk]WL[511]
;B[je]BL[493]
;W[ke]WL[510]
;B[li]BL[491]
;W[aa]WL[599]
;B[as]BL[489]
;W[tt]WL[589]
;B[tt]BL[486]
;W[tt]WL[589]C[
 Lukan 5d?: 65 thanks!
 oragefan 6d?: 65 np
 YoungPro 5d?: what happend ?
 fab 4d?: maybe a misclick
 YoungPro 5d?: i was thinking its without undo..
 YoungPro 5d?: l13 big black hole or something like that...
 YoungPro 5d?: i am too lazy... i hope fan hui isn't and he will find something here... :)
 YoungPro 5d?: but even now its really complicated... :)
 YoungPro 5d?: ah .. this hane.. ^^
 YoungPro 5d?: nothing important but black time is going on... :) :D
 YoungPro 5d?: black-lag / ?
 MessrSun 17k?: Probably not, black center was getting invaded.
 YoungPro 5d?: hane/jump or extend :D
 YoungPro 5d?: tengen :D
 YoungPro 5d?: hane to make things more complicated ?
 YoungPro 5d?: m11 ?
 YoungPro 5d?: or just extend.. .?
 YoungPro 5d?: white in trouble ?
 fab 4d?: L12 is strange, it probably means then Fan thought that he hadn't enough points with K12
 YoungPro 5d?: k12 won't make points...
 YoungPro 5d?: f10-13 area is really opend :)
 YoungPro 5d?: w got few points... ?
 fab 4d?: if N13 really works, it's a big problem ^^
 YoungPro 5d?: i can't see something better than n13 too...
 YoungPro 5d?: push at l15 but...
 fab 4d?: Unless I misread something, white N14 does capture
 fab 4d?: hmmm
 YoungPro 5d?: n14 can't capture...
 fab 4d?: why ?
 fab 4d?: oh, ok, I did misread
 YoungPro 5d?: n14,l13,m12,l15,k14,k15,j14,j16,k17,j15... and them i hope one of these white groups are short of libs...
 YoungPro 5d?: but white can try to kill s14 stone that way but...
 fab 4d?: but this whole sequence looks like a disaster for white
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah ?
 YoungPro 5d?: because of that n14 is bad i think and white just connected..
 YoungPro 5d?: i think black lead...
 YoungPro 5d?: f13 if white g13 black g14.. if white hane then just b j14 and capture l13 ?
 YoungPro 5d?: but for sure white can't g13...
 fab 4d?: black is ahead now, yes
 YoungPro 5d?: a2,b17,s12 big moves...
 YoungPro 5d?: time.. ^^
 YoungPro 5d?: lol...
 YoungPro 5d?: hane..?
 YoungPro 5d?: connect
 YoungPro 5d?: extend.. ?
 YoungPro 5d?: it looks close ... :)
 YoungPro 5d?: b17?
 fab 4d?: N12 was another white mistake :(
 fab 4d?: wasn't it ?
 YoungPro 5d?: why it was ?
 fab 4d?: quite small compared to S12
 YoungPro 5d?: j14 is intersting black move ^^
 YoungPro 5d?: but...
 YoungPro 5d?: b1 will be now :D ?
 YoungPro 5d?: l15 is always white sente...
 fab 4d?: N12 ws 5 points gote
 fab 4d?: really small
 YoungPro 5d?: s12 is bigger than 5 points for sure yeah :)
 YoungPro 5d?: but fan hui maybe was afraid of j14 move or something like attack to g12
 YoungPro 5d?: because now l15 is sente and its fine ... :)
 YoungPro 5d?: e15 nice ^^
 fab 4d?: when I thought about N12, I was first under the impression that P14 worked
 fab 4d?: maybe Fan misread too
 MessrSun 17k?: why does not P14 work for white?
 YoungPro 5d?: i don't think his idea was to kill something i guess
 fab 4d?: it doesn't
 YoungPro 5d?: because p14,p15,q14,r14,q15,o16,p16,n15
 YoungPro 5d?: ?
 fab 4d?: P14, P15, Q14, R14 Q15 and then black plays Q16
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah its similar :D
 YoungPro 5d?: i showed bad one :D
 YoungPro 5d?: ... :D
 YoungPro 5d?: sry :D
 YoungPro 5d?: but almost similar :)
 YoungPro 5d?: ahh
 YoungPro 5d?: h15
 YoungPro 5d?: isn't h15 sente... ?
 MessrSun 17k?: this did not work, per your line earlier
 fab 4d?: I count black ahead by 4 or 5 points
 YoungPro 5d?: he doesn't lose points by playing p14 messrsun :)
 fab 4d?: but it does look like a resign sequence
 YoungPro 5d?: this need thinking ?
 YoungPro 5d?: 18
 YoungPro 5d?: h15?
 YoungPro 5d?: a lot of moves :/
 fab 4d?: P14 was interesting, it was made for ko threats : even afetr black answers to white L15, white still has two local ko threats
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah for sure :)
 YoungPro 5d?: why w played k14..?
 MessrSun 17k?: black flirting with time issue again
 YoungPro 5d?: yeah but now its easier to play ^^
 MessrSun 17k?: biggest center I've seen in quite a few games
 YoungPro 5d?: :D
 YoungPro 5d?: i should give you some takemiya games :D and you will se what big center mean... ;) people says: center is not that big as it look ... . but i don't think like
 YoungPro 5d?: that... center is big...
 YoungPro 5d?: just a lot of players today play for cash.. solidly... :)
 YoungPro 5d?: uh
 YoungPro 5d?: 2 seconds??...
 fab 4d?: time pressure, yes ;)
 YoungPro 5d?: ko?
 YoungPro 5d?: amazing game :)
 oragefan 6d?: oragefan dead @ D17
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ A10
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ F7
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ A8
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ G3
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ G16
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ O15
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ N16
 Lukan 5d?: Lukan dead @ Q18
 oragefan 6d?: oragefan dead @ M1
 oragefan done
 oragefan done
 Lukan 5d?: 65 bottom stones?
 oragefan 6d?: 65 how
 YoungPro 5d?: what happend ?
 Lukan 5d?: 65 dont know
 oragefan 6d?: 65 ?
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