(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: ikami vs KaninSWE] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2013 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[ikami-KaninSWE(B) IGS]RE[W+16.5] PW[ikami]WR[3d ]NW[31] PB[KaninSWE]BR[4d?]NB[32] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2013-11-19] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] ;B[qd]BL[3583]C[ KaninSWE 4d?: 61 Please enjoy the game! ikami 3d : 61 let's have a good game ] ;W[dc]WL[3572] ;B[pq]BL[3579] ;W[dp]WL[3569]C[ Naizuri 6d?: gogogo ] ;B[de]BL[3548] ;W[od]WL[3527]C[ magicalben 5k : Heja Charlie! ] ;B[fd]BL[3486] ;W[pf]WL[3251] ;B[oc]BL[3341] ;W[nc]WL[3194] ;B[pc]BL[3288] ;W[md]WL[3188] ;B[fq]BL[3065] ;W[re]WL[3166] ;B[rd]BL[3063] ;W[cn]WL[3165] ;B[jp]BL[3043] ;W[pn]WL[3145] ;B[on]BL[2999] ;W[pp]WL[3053] ;B[op]BL[2979] ;W[oo]WL[3052] ;B[no]BL[2972] ;W[po]WL[3051] ;B[oq]BL[2970] ;W[om]WL[3032] ;B[nn]BL[2955] ;W[pl]WL[3030] ;B[fo]BL[2948] ;W[dr]WL[3015] ;B[ml]BL[2895] ;W[hq]WL[2744]C[ Naizuri 6d?: i guess Kanin will go for E3 Naizuri 6d?: and try to eat all Laman 13k : bite off too much, and your belly will explode ] ;B[eq]BL[2450] ;W[ho]WL[2732] ;B[dq]BL[2447] ;W[cq]WL[2731] ;B[cp]BL[2444]C[ Naizuri 6d?: looks good for black Naizuri 6d?: now he gets cash, and a fight close to his thickness ] ;W[br]WL[2616]C[ Naizuri 6d?: both want everything! magicalben 5k : everything is biggest afterall ;) ] ;B[do]BL[2033] ;W[bp]WL[2613] ;B[co]BL[2032] ;W[bo]WL[2612] ;B[dn]BL[2032] ;W[dm]WL[2573] ;B[cm]BL[2011] ;W[bn]WL[2572] ;B[fm]BL[2000] ;W[dl]WL[2564] ;B[hm]BL[1984] ;W[jq]WL[2401] ;B[kq]BL[1878] ;W[kr]WL[2306] ;B[iq]BL[1790] ;W[jr]WL[2303] ;B[ir]BL[1776] ;W[ip]WL[2270] ;B[hr]BL[1771] ;W[kp]WL[2258] ;B[jo]BL[1770]C[ Naizuri 6d?: L2 should be J4 probably ] ;W[lq]WL[2127] ;B[mr]BL[1761] ;W[mq]WL[2110] ;B[nr]BL[1755]C[ ruidianren BC : g2? Naizuri 6d?: ah, yes Margu 9k?: g2 connects? Naizuri 6d?: yes okiol 1d?: how to get coordinates Margu 9k?: tools next to game progress bar okiol 1d?: thx ruidianren BC : oh there is a tool - thx :) okiol 1d?: funny, g2 really doesn't look like it should work okiol 1d?: but looks like it does Naizuri 6d?: yeah Margu 9k?: I would not find it for sure, but as you say it seems to work okiol 1d?: looks pretty big too, w must be reading to see if he can get some forcing moves first ] ;W[ln]WL[1562]C[ Naizuri 6d?: but kills all aji in the area okiol 1d?: unless disc Naizuri 6d?: so w may be reluctant ] ;B[jm]BL[1705] ;W[ll]WL[1537] ;B[nm]BL[1668] ;W[lk]WL[1511] ;B[rq]BL[1654] ;W[ok]WL[1468]C[ okiol 1d?: this seems bigger for w okiol 1d?: much bigger, than g2 was ] ;B[nj]BL[1520] ;W[nk]WL[1449] ;B[mk]BL[1517] ;W[mj]WL[1447] ;B[lj]BL[1507] ;W[mi]WL[1446] ;B[kj]BL[1505]C[ okiol 1d?: a fight for sente :) ] ;W[ko]WL[1401]C[ okiol 1d?: j5 removes the g2 aji magicalben 5k : agree, but then w o4 and I like white more magicalben 5k : hard decision, I would J5 anyway I think. ] ;B[np]BL[1260] ;W[jn]WL[1396]C[ magicalben 5k : ah ] ;B[ro]BL[1246]C[ dynamical 15k?: heh okiol 1d?: god thing we're not the ones playing, huh :p ] ;W[rn]WL[1388]C[ magicalben 5k : :p indeed Naizuri 6d?: looks very bad for b ] ;B[qf]BL[1213]C[ magicalben 5k : I feel black needs to pull of a similar invasion in R11 area, but much harder imho ] ;W[qg]WL[1384]C[ okiol 1d?: can reduce a lot ] ;B[pe]BL[1168] ;W[of]WL[1373] ;B[oe]BL[1151]C[ okiol 1d?: b is ahead in territory before r11 is settled, i think game looks almost good for b? he seems to have good potential ] ;W[ne]WL[1360] ;B[nf]BL[1149] ;W[rf]WL[1352] ;B[qe]BL[1142] ;W[ph]WL[1336]C[ magicalben 5k : does b need another move around S18? okiol 1d?: hmm i take that back ] ;B[oh]BL[1088]C[ okiol 1d?: game doesn't look good for b, but i think he has a chance still Naizuri 6d?: b should be fine there magicalben 5k : right, then it is a game still magicalben 5k : p12 is interesting okiol 1d?: hey, it's carpenter's square, top right dynamical 15k?: looks bigger :D same still? ] ;W[ng]WL[1239] ;B[mf]BL[1086] ;W[mg]WL[1238]C[ okiol 1d?: ish :) dynamical 15k?: :) ] ;B[lf]BL[1065] ;W[lg]WL[1211] ;B[kf]BL[1060] ;W[kc]WL[1103] ;B[kg]BL[1017] ;W[oi]WL[999] ;B[nb]BL[1004] ;W[mb]WL[997] ;B[oa]BL[1003] ;W[hc]WL[949] ;B[eb]BL[996] ;W[be]WL[942] ;B[cd]BL[994] ;W[bd]WL[914] ;B[cc]BL[991] ;W[df]WL[880]C[ magicalben 5k : f17? ] ;B[bc]BL[939] ;W[ce]WL[836] ;B[ee]BL[902] ;W[di]WL[827] ;B[dj]BL[860] ;W[ej]WL[694]C[ BenjaminDG 6d?: cut and think after ] ;B[ei]BL[613]C[ okiol 1d?: why think after? dynamical 15k?: just skip the thinking alltogether? :D okiol 1d?: thinking overrated dynamical 15k?: agreed ] ;W[cj]WL[517] ;B[dh]BL[609] ;W[ci]WL[516] ;B[gb]BL[594]C[ okiol 1d?: w looks victorious to me :( ] ;W[hb]WL[480]C[ Naizuri 6d?: yes Naizuri 6d?: huge lead ] ;B[lb]BL[590] ;W[kb]WL[467] ;B[lc]BL[578] ;W[ld]WL[464] ;B[ma]BL[574] ;W[mc]WL[463] ;B[la]BL[573] ;W[ka]WL[457] ;B[na]BL[572] ;W[jd]WL[415] ;B[ke]BL[565]C[ magicalben 5k : must....kill... okiol 1d?: nono i have seen ggw instruction video okiol 1d?: attack for benefits! Naizuri 6d?: killiing is benefit Margu 9k?: killing is beneficial! magicalben 5k : :) Margu 9k?: damn, too slow okiol 1d?: war zones and friend zones have that in common, it's all about the benefits ruidianren BC : L16 a must for white? okiol 1d?: not if b can kill ] ;W[gc]WL[298]C[ okiol 1d?: maybe there are enough points in the middle for b? okiol 1d?: i think that's his plan anyway magicalben 5k : then he needs to find them soon, if white starts to jump out it will be ruins only in the middle okiol 1d?: i wonder if w lives if b plays in his base first okiol 1d?: cause then it's really scary to run okiol 1d?: if he doesn't ] ;B[kd]BL[409] ;W[fb]WL[295]C[ okiol 1d?: looks like kanin didn't think he could attack severe enough after w's g17 magicalben 5k : mmm okiol 1d?: but maybe it's still enough points for b? Naizuri 6d?: i think w gain here magicalben 5k : maybe, n16 is something ] ;B[cg]BL[363] ;W[bg]WL[288]C[ okiol 1d?: good thing about kibitz is wishful thinking is ok okiol 1d?: w gain?? really? magicalben 5k : :) Naizuri 6d?: yes, d18 later Naizuri 6d?: w secured last weak group okiol 1d?: hmm ] ;B[eh]BL[329] ;W[cf]WL[283]C[ okiol 1d?: well secured group is one thing, but okiol 1d?: it's not worth points Naizuri 6d?: top left is weak after d18 Naizuri 6d?: so it's huge okiol 1d?: but the d18... yes looks big ] ;B[fj]BL[296]C[ okiol 1d?: i don't think b has trouble living though magicalben 5k : black needs to spend moves in middle, so if white cut the corner with d18 etc, it's a trade? Naizuri 6d?: no, but w gets a way into center okiol 1d?: we'll see ] ;W[ek]WL[210] ;B[fc]BL[294]C[ okiol 1d?: i think when w has time for d18 ] ;W[ga]WL[208]C[ okiol 1d?: b is already connected ] ;B[ea]BL[289]C[ okiol 1d?: ooor that xD magicalben 5k : hm ] ;W[ec]WL[173]C[ okiol 1d?: actually ] ;B[db]BL[285]C[ okiol 1d?: i don't mind b's position now okiol 1d?: looks like he got to save and eat the cake ] ;W[fa]WL[146] ;B[cb]BL[274] ;W[hf]WL[129]C[ Naizuri 6d?: w still way ahead okiol 1d?: i'll trust you, i can't count ] ;B[rm]BL[236] ;W[qm]WL[125] ;B[sn]BL[234]C[ okiol 1d?: what do you mean by way ahead btw ] ;W[rl]WL[124] ;B[qn]BL[233]C[ okiol 1d?: like 10 points or Naizuri 6d?: 15 ish ] ;W[gl]WL[104]C[ okiol 1d?: got to leave computer :/ ] ;B[id]BL[201] ;W[jc]WL[78] ;B[ie]BL[159] ;W[ge]WL[31] ;B[fe]BL[97] ;W[if]WL[21] ;B[je]BL[95] ;W[he]WL[16] ;B[lh]BL[81] ;W[gm]WL[577] ;B[er]BL[57] ;W[fg]WL[562] ;B[mh]BL[52] ;W[nh]WL[554] ;B[li]BL[50] ;W[ni]WL[474] ;B[gn]BL[18] ;W[gi]WL[460] ;B[fl]BL[10] ;W[fk]WL[455] ;B[gk]BL[4] ;W[gj]WL[452] ;B[hk]BL[599] ;W[jh]WL[438] ;B[kh]BL[595] ;W[ij]WL[396] ;B[kk]BL[587] ;W[km]WL[382] ;B[kl]BL[583] ;W[lm]WL[381] ;B[ds]BL[561] ;W[cr]WL[380] ;B[ji]BL[537] ;W[ii]WL[378] ;B[jg]BL[534] ;W[ih]WL[371] ;B[sl]BL[514] ;W[rk]WL[369] ;B[sk]BL[512] ;W[sj]WL[368] ;B[sm]BL[511] ;W[rh]WL[359] ;B[gq]BL[473] ;W[hp]WL[349] ;B[in]BL[468] ;W[io]WL[348] ;B[qp]BL[464] ;W[is]WL[343] ;B[gr]BL[457] ;W[sd]WL[338] ;B[sc]BL[452] ;W[se]WL[338] ;B[rc]BL[441] ;W[nl]WL[330] ;B[mm]BL[432] ;W[jl]WL[327] ;B[im]BL[426] ;W[ik]WL[325] ;B[jj]BL[423] ;W[en]WL[591] ;B[eo]BL[420] ;W[em]WL[591] ;B[hl]BL[411] ;W[ff]WL[569] ;B[ef]BL[410] ;W[eg]WL[568] ;B[ig]BL[410] ;W[hg]WL[567] ;B[el]BL[409] ;W[dk]WL[563] ;B[qo]BL[397] ;W[pm]WL[562] ;B[rj]BL[599] ;W[qj]WL[559] ;B[ri]BL[587] ;W[qi]WL[558] ;B[si]BL[586] ;W[sh]WL[558] ;B[sj]BL[581] ;W[cs]WL[554] ;B[es]BL[576] ;W[gp]WL[553] ;B[hj]BL[571] ;W[hi]WL[551] ;B[ic]BL[565] ;W[ib]WL[550] ;B[lr]BL[557] ;W[fp]WL[546] ;B[ep]BL[528] ;W[mp]WL[544] ;B[ls]BL[503] ;W[ac]WL[537] ;B[ab]BL[501] ;W[ad]WL[530] ;B[mo]BL[500] ;W[lo]WL[529] ;B[hs]BL[488] ;W[fn]WL[520] ;B[go]BL[475] ;W[hn]WL[519] ;B[js]BL[471] ;W[ks]WL[518] ;B[is]BL[459] ;W[il]WL[516] ;B[gm]BL[458] ;W[tt]WL[507] ;B[tt]BL[445] ;W[tt]WL[507]C[ ikami 3d : ikami dead @ C13 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ D17 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ D12 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ F10 KaninSWE 4d?: KaninSWE dead @ N16 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ C7 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ P12 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ O10 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ O15 ikami 3d : ikami dead @ P16 ikami done ]; TW[as][ar][aq][ap][ao][an][am][al][ak][aj][ai][ah][ag][af][ae][bs][bq][bm] [bl][bk][bj][bi][bh][bf][cm][cl][ck][ch][cg][dj][dh][dg][ei][eh][fj][fi] [fh][gh][gg][gf][gb][hh][ha][ia][jp][jo][jb][ja][kq][kn][lp][nj][ol][oj] [oh][og][pk][pj][pi][pg][ql][qk][qh][rg][sg][sf] TB[aa][bb][ba][ca][dp][dd][dc][da][ed][ec][fs][fr][gs][gl][ki][le][ld][ms] [me][md][mc][mb][ns][ne][nd][nc][os][or][od][ob][ps][pr][pd][pb][pa][qs] [qr][qq][qc][qb][qa][rs][rr][rp][rn][rb][ra][ss][sr][sq][sp][so][sb][sa] OS[BenjaminDG][dynamical][ejder][gooooo][Laman] [magicalben][Margu][Naizuri][okiol][Rija] [ruidianren] )