(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: breakfast vs BenjaminP] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2012 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[breakfast-BenjaminP(B) IGS]RE[W+16.5] PW[breakfast]WR[3p ]NW[43] PB[BenjaminP]BR[5d?]NB[33] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2012-11-27] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] ;B[pd]BL[3598]C[ breakfast 3p : hi BenjaminP 5d?: enojy breakfast 3p : have a good game breakfast 3p : komi is 0.5 - standard mistake breakfast 3p : we will fix it later ] ;W[dd]WL[3569] ;B[pq]BL[3587]C[ BenjaminP 5d?: yes ] ;W[dp]WL[3558] ;B[qk]BL[3584] ;W[nc]WL[3554] ;B[pf]BL[3575] ;W[pb]WL[3531] ;B[jp]BL[3544] ;W[po]WL[3514] ;B[qp]BL[3450] ;W[op]WL[3457] ;B[oq]BL[3392] ;W[mp]WL[3454] ;B[nq]BL[3391] ;W[mm]WL[3445] ;B[mq]BL[3380] ;W[lp]WL[3424] ;B[lq]BL[3376] ;W[qc]WL[3324] ;B[qd]BL[3241] ;W[fq]WL[3129] ;B[cj]BL[3208] ;W[cl]WL[3047] ;B[cf]BL[3202]C[ edikar BC : 1 ] ;W[ch]WL[3045] ;B[ef]BL[3192] ;W[fd]WL[3006] ;B[bd]BL[3043] ;W[eh]WL[2999] ;B[cc]BL[2917] ;W[ff]WL[2935] ;B[bh]BL[2888] ;W[mf]WL[2728] ;B[pi]BL[2674] ;W[dc]WL[2545] ;B[mc]BL[2498] ;W[nb]WL[2485] ;B[me]BL[2352] ;W[ne]WL[2426] ;B[nd]BL[2348] ;W[od]WL[2424] ;B[md]BL[2347] ;W[oe]WL[2422] ;B[lf]BL[2343] ;W[lg]WL[2374] ;B[kg]BL[2216] ;W[kf]WL[2171] ;B[le]BL[2213] ;W[mg]WL[2165] ;B[jf]BL[2151] ;W[kh]WL[2159] ;B[jg]BL[1974] ;W[pe]WL[2069] ;B[qe]BL[1960] ;W[qf]WL[2067] ;B[qg]BL[1575] ;W[rf]WL[2065] ;B[rg]BL[1574] ;W[jd]WL[1952] ;B[ke]BL[1500] ;W[kc]WL[1520] ;B[jh]BL[1360] ;W[ki]WL[1485] ;B[ji]BL[1337] ;W[kj]WL[1440] ;B[jj]BL[1275] ;W[kk]WL[1403] ;B[il]BL[1153] ;W[sf]WL[1302] ;B[of]BL[1134] ;W[rd]WL[1237] ;B[nf]BL[1130] ;W[oc]WL[1235] ;B[ll]BL[1015] ;W[jk]WL[969] ;B[ik]BL[724]C[ toorop 6k?: la partie n'est pas comment??e par ailleurs? ] ;W[km]WL[943] ;B[lm]BL[679] ;W[ln]WL[932] ;B[kn]BL[655] ;W[ml]WL[624] ;B[lk]BL[364] ;W[mk]WL[574] ;B[kl]BL[325] ;W[jl]WL[544] ;B[jm]BL[323] ;W[lj]WL[544] ;B[km]BL[322] ;W[mi]WL[409] ;B[nj]BL[317] ;W[oj]WL[268] ;B[ni]BL[288] ;W[mj]WL[249] ;B[nk]BL[228] ;W[im]WL[239] ;B[jo]BL[200] ;W[hm]WL[198] ;B[gk]BL[193] ;W[fm]WL[49] ;B[gq]BL[127] ;W[gr]WL[23] ;B[hr]BL[90] ;W[hq]WL[14] ;B[iq]BL[82] ;W[gp]WL[597] ;B[on]BL[80] ;W[om]WL[584] ;B[nn]BL[39] ;W[mn]WL[538] ;B[pn]BL[16] ;W[ol]WL[500] ;B[oi]BL[540]C[ pingu007 1d?: attack attack! Idn 1d?: l5 fait un oeil non ? ] ;W[ql]WL[455]C[ pingu007 1d?: ben pas vraiment si? pingu007 1d?: hum pingu007 1d?: quoique // Idn 1d?: j'ai l'impression quand meme Idn 1d?: Salut Astrid :) pingu007 1d?: lut bob :) ] ;B[rk]BL[470] ;W[kp]WL[447] ;B[kq]BL[446]C[ Bdx 4d?: salut astrtid ca va ] ;W[ko]WL[442] ;B[jn]BL[445]C[ pingu007 1d?: solal va ? table! ] ;W[np]WL[434]C[ Bdx 4d?: hi hi hi Idn 1d?: :p ] ;B[sg]BL[437] ;W[re]WL[408]C[ Bdx 4d?: jene crois pas que c'est pret pingu007 1d?: allez zou! c6! ] ;B[hd]BL[369]C[ Bdx 4d?: pourquoi c6 ] ;W[hc]WL[329] ;B[ic]BL[355] ;W[id]WL[317] ;B[gc]BL[354] ;W[hb]WL[302] ;B[gd]BL[351] ;W[gb]WL[301] ;B[fc]BL[346] ;W[fb]WL[299] ;B[fe]BL[340] ;W[bi]WL[278] ;B[ci]BL[214] ;W[bg]WL[276] ;B[dh]BL[212] ;W[ah]WL[255] ;B[cg]BL[189] ;W[bj]WL[249] ;B[bh]BL[185] ;W[ck]WL[244] ;B[ed]BL[179] ;W[ch]WL[227] ;B[eb]BL[171] ;W[db]WL[224] ;B[ec]BL[167] ;W[ea]WL[222] ;B[lb]BL[131] ;W[cd]WL[181] ;B[bc]BL[124] ;W[kb]WL[68] ;B[ib]BL[114] ;W[ia]WL[15]C[ Matrok 8k?: k18 tue ? ] ;B[fa]BL[41]C[ Matrok 8k?: non, blanc n18 connecte ] ;W[dg]WL[405] ;B[bh]BL[26] ;W[df]WL[357] ;B[da]BL[23] ;W[ch]WL[324] ;B[de]BL[22] ;W[di]WL[292] ;B[mb]BL[561] ;W[ce]WL[281] ;B[cb]BL[542] ;W[ee]WL[278] ;B[nl]BL[513] ;W[jb]WL[256] ;B[ka]BL[507] ;W[jc]WL[253] ;B[ga]BL[503] ;W[hi]WL[238] ;B[de]BL[498] ;W[ie]WL[210] ;B[hg]BL[479] ;W[hf]WL[174] ;B[fg]BL[451] ;W[gf]WL[172] ;B[gg]BL[437] ;W[ee]WL[148] ;B[eg]BL[426] ;W[de]WL[137] ;B[if]BL[419] ;W[he]WL[134] ;B[ge]BL[414] ;W[hh]WL[118] ;B[hj]BL[395] ;W[hl]WL[109] ;B[gj]BL[369] ;W[ig]WL[94] ;B[ih]BL[367] ;W[fh]WL[91] ;B[gl]BL[365] ;W[gm]WL[89] ;B[je]BL[361] ;W[nm]WL[67] ;B[rm]BL[307] ;W[qo]WL[63] ;B[ro]BL[306] ;W[qn]WL[56] ;B[rn]BL[263]C[ Matrok 8k?: S5 misclick ? ] ;W[ca]WL[45] ;B[ba]BL[260] ;W[gh]WL[25] ;B[ig]BL[257] ;W[ir]WL[413] ;B[jr]BL[254] ;W[hs]WL[411] ;B[qm]BL[253]C[ gostudent6 9k : Help out the beginner but isn't the group around J 13 dead? ] ;W[pm]WL[397] ;B[pp]BL[249] ;W[oo]WL[395] ;B[be]BL[599] ;W[bf]WL[392]C[ LeT 2d+: yes but k17 also dead Morziloeil 10k?: pourquoi pas Q7 au lieu de R7? mbardeen 5k+: hmm. not dead, but seki? denisG 3k?: it is a semeai, but I cannot read it !!! gostudent6 9k : Thank you very much Matrok 8k?: to me it looks like it's the white group around K17 which is dead : 2 outside liberties vs 7 ] ;B[kd]BL[541] ;W[lc]WL[389]C[ LeT 2d+: yeah b has more libs ] ;B[ek]BL[526]C[ toorop 6k?: w disagree malf 4k : but also more approach moves ] ;W[ej]WL[377] ;B[el]BL[515] ;W[em]WL[373]C[ Matrok 8k?: maybe not 2 vs 7 but 4 vs 6... still enough Mithrandir 9k : Can white win without L17? toorop 6k?: use your fingers and count Matrok 8k?: another question : is there still something to do with black C3 ? Mithrandir 9k : Don't be rude, someone might have already counted... LeT 2d+: both apparently supposing an invasion useless malf 4k : i am sure several of us have counted the board :) ] ;B[ib]BL[341]C[ denisG 3k?: B has won the semeai, should play C3 as fast as possible ] ;W[ng]WL[287]C[ LeT 2d+: c3 probably nothing ] ;B[oh]BL[338]C[ Matrok 8k?: isn't C3 only living with a ko ? Morziloeil 10k?: couldn't b4 kill then? ] ;W[og]WL[278] ;B[pg]BL[336] ;W[pj]WL[233] ;B[qj]BL[332] ;W[ip]WL[196] ;B[jq]BL[330] ;W[io]WL[194] ;B[in]BL[329] ;W[hn]WL[188] ;B[ok]BL[323] ;W[rl]WL[137] ;B[sl]BL[312] ;W[pl]WL[135] ;B[pk]BL[307] ;W[fj]WL[104]C[ pingu007 1d?: c3 b4? ] ;B[af]BL[260] ;W[nh]WL[100] ;B[js]BL[246]C[ malf 4k : W wins if nothing in the lower left for B ] ;W[dl]WL[90] ;B[ij]BL[230]C[ Matrok 8k?: black will not try anything in the lower left ] ;W[gi]WL[77]C[ Morziloeil 10k?: @pingu007 c'est ce que je r?ondrais detkov 4k : can life be made in c3? Matrok 8k?: if he wanted to he would have done it earlier SimeonG 1k?: white is too strong around to live with c3 ] ;B[is]BL[199]C[ pingu007 1d?: c3 b4 i dont see life for b ] ;W[hr]WL[71] ;B[dk]BL[192] ;W[dj]WL[69] ;B[la]BL[188]C[ LeT 2d+: and if b starts c4? ] ;W[na]WL[55] ;B[ja]BL[182]C[ Matrok 8k?: ... then w C3 ] ;W[ic]WL[53] ;B[ea]BL[178] ;W[ag]WL[47]C[ SimeonG 1k?: even b4 could still work :) ] ;B[ae]BL[157] ;W[fl]WL[597] ;B[fk]BL[156] ;W[hk]WL[589] ;B[ha]BL[151] ;W[ma]WL[585] ;B[ii]BL[141] ;W[tt]WL[577] ;B[tt]BL[597] ;W[tt]WL[577]C[ BenjaminP 5d?: BenjaminP dead @ R16 BenjaminP 5d?: BenjaminP dead @ K17 breakfast 3p : breakfast dead @ J19 BenjaminP 5d?: BenjaminP dead @ P6 toorop 6k?: sympa y a du son ici mais quel son ! breakfast done ]; TW[as][ar][aq][ap][ao][an][am][al][ak][aj][ai][bs][br][bq][bp][bo][bn][bm] [bl][bk][bh][cs][cr][cq][cp][co][cn][cm][cj][ci][cg][cf][ds][dr][dq][do] [dn][dm][dh][es][er][eq][ep][eo][en][ei][fs][fr][fp][fo][fn][fi][gs][gq] [go][gn][hp][ho][lo][li][lh][mo][mh][no][nn][on][ob][oa][pn][pd][pc][pa] [qe][qd][qb][qa][rc][rb][ra][se][sd][sc][sb][sa] TB[ad][ac][ab][aa][bb][ca][ff][fd][fb][gf][gb][hf][he][hc][hb][ie][id][ic] [ib][ia][jd][jc][jb][ks][kr][kf][kc][kb][ls][lr][ld][lc][ms][mr][ns][nr] [os][or][oj][ps][pr][pj][ph][qs][qr][qq][qi][qh][rs][rr][rq][rp][rj][ri] [rh][ss][sr][sq][sp][so][sn][sm][sk][sj][si][sh] OS[a10621][ABorodach][Acchan][Achim][adavies] [ajax][akiss][Akizuki][Alingo][AltaNar] [anchar][Anders2009][Antoine][anya09][aobam] [apaz][ar09202][Asaka22][attn][autica] [Baduk37][banjyaku][Barbermoon][Barmalei][Bdx] [Binah][Bishibosh][Bohdan][booobby][boudu] [BRONSON][candy66][CHACHA][ChipSelect][Chur] [clam][colocolo][Costy][CRfBHmRA][CROeQqgu] [CROLPGNA][CRpYSFsg][cwrk][denisG][detkov] [dmedak][drcc][duonrep][durian][dxia] [EasyRider][edikar][elma][erfx][erina802] [Exodus][Fab38][fireeye][FishM3][flo] [fuchi7star][fuha][gary][GITEN][gokichi123] [gostudent6][gotirol][gotou27][gpax][hanako1] [HansWerner][HappyLook][Hasanwara][hermann][hhy1688] [HIMAWARI][hiroaki][hokkaimasa][humble][hutululu] [Hwater][hyunleecho][Icewolf][idahov][Idn] [im11744202][im15748754][insondable][jira9026][jisten] [JohannesR][Kathi][Kern83][KIMU][kokidayo] [kumachan1][kurocyann][Leguska][LeT][Levike] [LIGHTBOOK][lolita][LotusCloud][LovelyFox][maipinda] [malf][martin220][Matrok][mattiasyu][mbardeen] [meme][mesbee2][mesh2][milo][mina] [minamike][Minske][Mithrandir][miyagogo][mizutaku] [mojo][MONKEY][Morziloeil][muchotoku][muramanq] [mutuo60][Nadii88][nanrey][naotomo][ngarry] [niche][nk10][nulachier][nutty][ocram] [olaf][olkk][onsenjin][Parmenides][pingu007] [pluto2][ponchan33][POVO][puqian][puru1255] [Qscwdv][qwertyno2][rokusan][romamu][ryu6] [s222][s8271936][Sadiker][saitann][Saltydog] [SapiEnta][sasakuma][Scoun][Seishiru][setuo] [Shinogi][Shved][SimeonG][SimplyGo][Sinmori] [slowmatch][Slownet][start3][syounansed][taeoh] [taigerguzu][taikobara][TAKA715][Tanargue][taochung] [TheDoty][Thelonious][ThomasD][tk17536845][Tom] [tom99][Tomoko2][tonishiu][toorop][topaz] [Toya][U2006][usgo][Veedee][wafda2] [wano][weiqi4][weiqi72][wenczeng][wove] [x3r4][XB40][xstorm][yan][yelle] [yoshi0218][yoshidtu][yukinko][yuzuudon][z0833] [Zbyszek][zzgo] )