(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: merocsaba vs Pancake] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2022 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[merocsaba-Pancake(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign] PW[merocsaba]WR[6d?]NW[34] PB[Pancake]BR[5d?]NB[33] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2022-04-05] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[-5.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] C[ Pancake 5d?: 127 Hi Csaba, have a nice game! ] ;B[pd]BL[3584]C[ merocsaba 6d?: Hey, have a good game! merocsaba 6d?: Hi! ] ;W[dq]WL[3577] ;B[pq]BL[3569] ;W[dc]WL[3574]C[ gigago 6d : zo, we zijn benieuwd :-) Zaphodius 6d?: zeker ] ;B[co]BL[3504] ;W[fp]WL[3570] ;B[po]BL[3497] ;W[qc]WL[3560] ;B[qd]BL[3460]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: ladder ] ;W[pc]WL[3546] ;B[od]BL[3458] ;W[oc]WL[3530]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: o17, o16 or n17 even Zaphodius 6d?: I recommend o17 ] ;B[nd]BL[3377] ;W[mb]WL[3521] ;B[de]BL[3370] ;W[qj]WL[3499]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: R8, of course ] ;B[hq]BL[3329]C[ gigago 6d : almost ] ;W[di]WL[3470]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: w R7 is huge Zaphodius 6d?: C17 is ok gigago 6d : yes, it seems b would have to exchange R8 for some w move on the right, then look elsewhere Zaphodius 6d?: B needs to steer W in the direction of the top - because that is relatively small Zaphodius 6d?: On the right, indeed, I can't imagine a more urgent move than B R8 or W R7 gigago 6d : on the other hand, right now the L side is quickly becoming more important gigago 6d : of course the risk is, that w gets to R7 first Zaphodius 6d?: yes, sure ] ;B[ck]BL[3160] ;W[ho]WL[3419]C[ gigago 6d : ah ] ;B[jp]BL[3137] ;W[qm]WL[3415]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: hmmm, H5 seems to be somewhat of a gift Zaphodius 6d?: B D4 gigago 6d : yes - b's lower side becomes stronger + there's a cut at G5 gigago 6d : then again, R7 is huge gigago 6d : b cannot answer locally now, that would mean a pure loss Zaphodius 6d?: yes - never ever answer! Zaphodius 6d?: That's an important lesson gigago 6d : well you can sometimes, but only if it's urgent Zaphodius 6d?: C17 etc is OK too gigago 6d : yes, b must stick to his plan and ignore the right side Zaphodius 6d?: In a way, the exchange of H5 for K4 indirectly strenghtens B's Lower Right corner ] ;B[fd]BL[2799]C[ gigago 6d : yes, it makes a white invasion harder Zaphodius 6d?: F16 seems the wrong direction Zaphodius 6d?: I immediately want to attach at C15 now gigago 6d : the AI move would be to go for the profit first Zaphodius 6d?: The top is relatively small because W has a stone at N18 Zaphodius 6d?: aha, ok gigago 6d : even w E 15 is not out of the question here Zaphodius 6d?: I am just commenting from the 'loose wrist'. Zaphodius 6d?: woah Zaphodius 6d?: I see gigago 6d : i mean, b can capture in a ladder buet he can't, can he? Zaphodius 6d?: It puts C9 in the wrong spot, I think Zaphodius 6d?: Even if he could, he wouldn;t gigago 6d : so there would be a fight, not necessarily good for b ] ;W[ce]WL[3189]C[ gigago 6d : then H5 may even prove useful gigago 6d : ok, white goes for profit gigago 6d : but of course, this weakens D11 ] ;B[dd]BL[2704] ;W[cd]WL[3185] ;B[cc]BL[2702]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: aha ok ] ;W[cb]WL[3170] ;B[bc]BL[2701] ;W[bb]WL[3168]C[ gigago 6d : extra strength on L side ] ;B[ec]BL[2698] ;W[db]WL[3166] ;B[cf]BL[2697] ;W[bd]WL[3164] ;B[be]BL[2695] ;W[ac]WL[3162]C[ gigago 6d : however, w's corner is big and solid Zaphodius 6d?: hmmm. Zou Wit niet C18 op B17 hebben kunnen spelen - ik heb dat een jaar of 40 geleden eens gezien in een top prof partij. Zaphodius 6d?: oops, sry, dutch... Zaphodius 6d?: Well, at least, it's not double dutch. gigago 6d : yes, I would think of that too gigago 6d : change the direction and make b play on the upper side ] ;B[eg]BL[2568]C[ gigago 6d : all the same, i fgeel this is ok for w Zaphodius 6d?: so instead of C18 play B17, C18, B18, D18 and W D14 Zaphodius 6d?: E13???? gigago 6d : especially after b E13 - this move does not exist! Zaphodius 6d?: Maybe it only loses 1-2 points according to AI , but I can;t even think of this move. gigago 6d : so much aji - e.g. w C13, b B14, w D13, b D14, w E12 Zaphodius 6d?: Yes. When you attack, play in a solid way. Zaphodius 6d?: Maybe just play C7, just for the heck of it? gigago 6d : looks entirely possible, w is light all around Zaphodius 6d?: "seeing what happens' is often quite a good strategy Zaphodius 6d?: but of course, you must have some idea about the outcome gigago 6d : if necessary, w can be satisfied to just captur B15 as a bonus Zaphodius 6d?: yup Zaphodius 6d?: When strong players seem to play 'WTF' moves, they still have a reason. ] ;W[cm]WL[2798]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: and just like that... gigago 6d : yes, but it's like a war: most players have entirely wrong reasons Zaphodius 6d?: hahaha gigago 6d : then they end up paying in rubles Zaphodius 6d?: Hmmm, but the other side is paying in dead people. gigago 6d : this looks like a good way for w to settle the position gigago 6d : doing nothing is not an option for b now Zaphodius 6d?: I just did a meditation session with spoken guidance. The voice asked when was the last time you did nothing? gigago 6d : well, you can't remember by definition Zaphodius 6d?: ok, I wnna play E5 Zaphodius 6d?: just to increase the scale of the fight. Zaphodius 6d?: The alternative is D6, I guess ] ;B[ek]BL[2238]C[ gigago 6d : well, it's like the ancient Greek story: "if you sanction, a big empire will be destroyed" ] ;W[cp]WL[2770] ;B[do]BL[2229]C[ gigago 6d : ok so this gets a little harder to judge Zaphodius 6d?: Who is making the rules? ] ;W[em]WL[2728]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: F5, without thinking gigago 6d : looks like the only way Zaphodius 6d?: I think it's a waste of time to even think about this ] ;B[fo]BL[2159] ;W[ep]WL[2722]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: E4???? Zaphodius 6d?: not G4? gigago 6d : it's a waste of time to play Go gigago 6d : a fun waste, but a waste Zaphodius 6d?: That's true. But hey, how many truly good minutes do you have in a day? gigago 6d : well, w E4 does pose a problem ] ;B[eo]BL[2052]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: why? Zaphodius 6d?: I can't see how W could ever capture that B group ] ;W[gm]WL[2607]C[ gigago 6d : no, but b will have to connect somehow gigago 6d : otoh, w's shape is not all that great either Zaphodius 6d?: e.g. G5, G4, H4,H6, B5 B4 and B7 Zaphodius 6d?: after that W D8, C8, D9, D10 Zaphodius 6d?: But Michiel is taking a lot of time ] ;B[bo]BL[1786]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: This is bad Zaphodius 6d?: Now W gets the vital point at G5 ] ;W[iq]WL[2426] ;B[go]BL[1730]C[ gigago 6d : lol ] ;W[gp]WL[2420] ;B[hp]BL[1728]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: Hmmm, tegenlicht is/was op TV Zaphodius 6d?: omg gigago 6d : i couldn't even think of these moves! ] ;W[hn]WL[2377] ;B[ip]BL[1721]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: Hey man, that's calle creativity ] ;W[bq]WL[2372] ;B[bm]BL[1719] ;W[dl]WL[2369]C[ gigago 6d : b counts on being able to go both ways gigago 6d : mmm. w lost points on the lower side ] ;B[dk]BL[1648] ;W[bl]WL[2365] ;B[cl]BL[1643] ;W[bn]WL[2362]C[ gigago 6d : what?!? ] ;B[fm]BL[1640]C[ Linley 3d?: that wedge is cool gigago 6d : sure, but - does it work Zaphodius 6d?: woah ] ;W[fn]WL[2289]C[ gigago 6d : well, it could still turn into a semedorio ] ;B[fl]BL[1565] ;W[gn]WL[2282] ;B[en]BL[1560] ;W[am]WL[2252]C[ gigago 6d : mmm no way to enclose w ] ;B[bk]BL[1526]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: hmmm, B is dying? gigago 6d : yep ] ;W[ao]WL[2226]C[ gigago 6d : and no compensation ] ;B[ap]BL[1512] ;W[bp]WL[2223]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: why? ] ;B[an]BL[1495]C[ gigago 6d : just w D7 Zaphodius 6d?: that would make it into a ko gigago 6d : mmm Zaphodius 6d?: D4 I guess ] ;W[dp]WL[2062]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: multistep ko Zaphodius 6d?: not even ] ;B[il]BL[1309] ;W[jn]WL[1956] ;B[kl]BL[1187] ;W[ao]WL[1916]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: why playL8? Why play A5? gigago 6d : well b will have to block now gigago 6d : to make it worth his while Zaphodius 6d?: E8/D7 and G8, I guess Zaphodius 6d?: or E8, D7, L6 Zaphodius 6d?: maybe E8 is not necessary gigago 6d : i thought just M6 would be perfect for w Zaphodius 6d?: ahh, yes gigago 6d : since that is sente against lower side Zaphodius 6d?: A5 is weird ] ;B[kd]BL[1049]C[ gigago 6d : b L8 is sort of fraticidal move gigago 6d : well, w played a soft move, so b still has hope ] ;W[li]WL[1836]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: I canúnderstand L16 either gigago 6d : b Q9 gigago 6d : cut off white at all cost Zaphodius 6d?: sounds like a good plan gigago 6d : there's no other way Zaphodius 6d?: I would play Q10 gigago 6d : anything, but keep the pressure on Zaphodius 6d?: yes, cut and maim gigago 6d : defending is not good enough Zaphodius 6d?: I don;t understand where to defend ] ;B[oi]BL[876]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: He gets the idea. gigago 6d : apparently b agrees ] ;W[jk]WL[1794]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: I don;t wanna connect ] ;B[jl]BL[840]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: somehow resist ] ;W[lk]WL[1774]C[ gigago 6d : yes but it's hard to find an effective move gigago 6d : b Q9 w R9 b Q7 gigago 6d : go gigago 6d : just do it ] ;B[pk]BL[769]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: and he just did it gigago 6d : amen Zaphodius 6d?: But I wanna make use of e8/d7 and J6 ] ;W[qk]WL[1699]C[ gigago 6d : maybe he'l get a chance for that gigago 6d : but first isolate the main part Zaphodius 6d?: If Q8, W just cuts through gigago 6d : Q7 please ] ;B[jj]BL[689]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: oops, I meant IF Q7, W will cut through ] ;W[ke]WL[1691]C[ gigago 6d : look, if b manages to completely block off the lower side, he''s also happy gigago 6d : ah, b kK10 gigago 6d : too small ] ;B[je]BL[640]C[ gigago 6d : frankly, w Q8 will now end the game ] ;W[jf]WL[1574]C[ gigago 6d : ok, w picks another fight ] ;B[kf]BL[579]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: This loks like a bad fight for B ] ;W[le]WL[1547] ;B[ld]BL[578]C[ TimeS 1d+: W not much cash, negative komi Zaphodius 6d?: N18 is at the right spot ] ;W[me]WL[1527]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: and K15 etc. are all wasted moves, once W is alive ] ;B[mc]BL[487]C[ gigago 6d : ok b seems to agree there's a problem ] ;W[nc]WL[1500]C[ gigago 6d : otherwise one would never play a move like N17 ] ;B[lb]BL[462]C[ gigago 6d : oh white can cut now Zaphodius 6d?: But does he want to? Zaphodius 6d?: I would without any hesitation gigago 6d : well i'd almost say "why not gigago 6d : " gigago 6d : because then b has two more groups to look aftr Zaphodius 6d?: But, TBH, N16 would make N15 heavy ] ;W[md]WL[1401] ;B[lc]BL[459] ;W[mg]WL[1378]C[ gigago 6d : well b's shape isn't pretty ] ;B[nb]BL[449] ;W[ob]WL[1374] ;B[ma]BL[446]C[ gigago 6d : ah w gets S16 ] ;W[rd]WL[1371] ;B[re]BL[443] ;W[rc]WL[1368] ;B[pf]BL[435] ;W[ie]WL[1361] ;B[jd]BL[433]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: These days, nobody cares about shape - that's such a human concept ;-) ] ;W[jg]WL[1358] ;B[qh]BL[336]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: W is ahead now gigago 6d : clearly gigago 6d : and b R12 desn't even help b much: w can still play nasty at P13 ] ;W[ji]WL[1218] ;B[rn]BL[318] ;W[pl]WL[1214]C[ gigago 6d : b will have to take care or the center will become white ] ;B[mp]BL[210]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: N4 doesn;t show enough ambition gigago 6d : let's call it a patient move, ok? ] ;W[ij]WL[1179]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: hmmm Zaphodius 6d?: W is consolidating gigago 6d : however, i agree that w J10 is huge gigago 6d : we're already looking at 10+ points for white in the center ] ;B[hi]BL[147]C[ gigago 6d : and b is still thin on the right side gigago 6d : now chasing the 3 b stones becomes an option ] ;W[rf]WL[1105] ;B[rg]BL[122]C[ gigago 6d : ok, direct approach by w Zaphodius 6d?: that too Zaphodius 6d?: But S13 is so painful gigago 6d : well, what can he do? b is thin ] ;W[qe]WL[1048] ;B[qf]BL[119] ;W[se]WL[1046] ;B[nf]BL[112] ;W[pi]WL[1031] ;B[ph]BL[108] ;W[oj]WL[1028] ;B[ng]BL[92] ;W[hf]WL[979] ;B[gg]BL[534] ;W[hj]WL[974] ;B[gi]BL[519] ;W[gj]WL[964] ;B[fj]BL[517] ;W[mo]WL[942]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: Ja de enig manier om nog te winnen voor zwart is als hij op G8 speelt, denk ik ] ;B[lp]BL[498]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: B has 3 libs on the left ] ;W[pn]WL[880]C[ gigago 6d : yes so w will L6 right away ] ;B[qo]BL[478] ;W[bf]WL[865] ;B[bg]BL[476] ;W[ae]WL[862] ;B[cg]BL[456] ;W[hc]WL[835]C[ gigago 6d : w collects his bonus points ] ;B[ic]BL[435] ;W[ib]WL[831] ;B[hd]BL[431] ;W[gc]WL[822] ;B[he]BL[421] ;W[eb]WL[811]C[ gigago 6d : and the upper side turns white too ] ;B[an]BL[376] ;W[aq]WL[799] ;B[lg]BL[325] ;W[kg]WL[789] ;B[mh]BL[320] ;W[lh]WL[760] ;B[mf]BL[316] ;W[lf]WL[757]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: o15? ] ;B[gr]BL[266]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: of eerst maar G8 ] ;W[ni]WL[744] ;B[oh]BL[258] ;W[ri]WL[718] ;B[ne]BL[252] ;W[mg]WL[715]C[ gigago 6d : eerst maar eens leven :-) Zaphodius 6d?: Zwart creëert geen kansen ] ;B[qi]BL[217] ;W[rh]WL[694]C[ Zaphodius 6d?: hahaha gigago 6d : oohhh aggressive Zaphodius 6d?: opgave gigago 6d : ko for live :-/ Zaphodius 6d?: how? ]; OS[anduril][azazoing][BigOak][Blackness2][chen882011] [cyberdrive][erc][funapoko][gigago][goal99] [GS373][ikios][JIRI][kkbnwkm2][kwok103] [lkr0][Olo][Pierone][Rajazz0][samoht] [siskin][watsan][YYZ][Zaphodius][zoomzoom] )