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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: jameshutch vs adavies]
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]
GN[jameshutch-adavies(B) IGS]RE[W+5.5]
PW[jameshutch]WR[2d+]NW[30]
PB[adavies]BR[3d ]NB[31]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2021-01-26]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
 adavies 3d : Hi James
 jameshutch 2d+: 59 have fun
 adavies 3d : Have a good game
]
;B[qd]BL[3583]
;W[dc]WL[3596]
;B[pq]BL[3575]
;W[dq]WL[3578]
;B[oc]BL[3563]
;W[po]WL[3572]
;B[qo]BL[3552]
;W[qn]WL[3550]
;B[qp]BL[3550]
;W[pn]WL[3549]
;B[nq]BL[3547]
;W[qj]WL[3547]
;B[co]BL[3535]
;W[dl]WL[3494]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Facing 3-4 stones for white. I wonder if adavies has seen that before :P
 iaznab 1k+: I'm sure many times :)
 nelsonww9 5k : pretty standard opening so far
 RedLeopard 3k : pretty old school  ;)
 iaznab 1k+: r10 is often played at q10 nowadays
 iaznab 1k+: but I still prefer r10
 nelsonww9 5k : except the C5 kikari seems to be all the rage now
 RedLeopard 3k : back in fashion
 Mai4ke1 7k : I think the super modern move (well I guess a few years old now) is R15 rather than Q10/R10.
 iaznab 1k+: e5 would be 'old-school' move
 RedLeopard 3k : :)
 iaznab 1k+: e4 feels more up to date for b here
 Mai4ke1 7k : F5 is also an option?
 RedLeopard 3k : black is thinking a long time about D6
]
;B[ep]BL[3270]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : aaah he wants to quickly settle
 iaznab 1k+: this is a more contemporary move, more AI influenced
 Mai4ke1 7k : hmm, apparently R15 at move 12 isn't a thing
]
;W[dp]WL[3435]
;B[do]BL[3268]
;W[eo]WL[3434]
;B[dm]BL[3266]C[
 iaznab 1k+: w had this planned out
 iaznab 1k+: erm b
 Mai4ke1 7k : The pro games seem to show black starting at C15 not C5 too.
 iaznab 1k+: I would have preferred to see the result if w played at e3 instead of push/cut of d4/e5
]
;W[fo]WL[3248]
;B[cl]BL[3253]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : This joseki seems to be the most common in pro records
 Mai4ke1 7k : well, with C8 at E7
 iaznab 1k+: seems balanced
 sente 1d+: with o3 in place this seems reasonable for black
]
;W[ck]WL[3175]C[
 iaznab 1k+: hard for w to make territory on bottom yes
 iaznab 1k+: hard to find the right extension
]
;B[em]BL[3123]C[
 iaznab 1k+: this was a tough move to play for b I'm sure
 iaznab 1k+: c7 atari feels juicy
 iaznab 1k+: but probably just d9 first
 iaznab 1k+: too much aji
 Mai4ke1 7k : Interesting, the one example of this exact corner position has white atari at B8
 Mai4ke1 7k : B8, C7, B4
]
;W[bp]WL[3017]
;B[bk]BL[3106]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : k, so white gets one of the points above, but omitted B8
 niallgo 6k : B9 feels overplay
 niallgo 6k : white can now cut and capture for a ponuki on the side
 nelsonww9 5k : yes e5 seems popular
]
;W[bl]WL[2889]
;B[cm]BL[3102]
;W[bj]WL[2887]
;B[dk]BL[3090]
;W[cj]WL[2885]
;B[bm]BL[3087]
;W[dj]WL[2863]
;B[cf]BL[3061]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : C16 without thinking
 iaznab 1k+: this feels like an overplay
]
;W[cd]WL[2798]
;B[ek]BL[3053]C[
 iaznab 1k+: e14 also probably an option for w
 iaznab 1k+: instead of c16
 iaznab 1k+: probably still a move
 iaznab 1k+: or maybe f11
]
;W[ef]WL[2626]
;B[ej]BL[3046]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : well spotted iaznab
]
;W[dh]WL[2618]C[
 iaznab 1k+: w now has a lead
 RedLeopard 3k : c14 was expensive
]
;B[jd]BL[3020]C[
 sente 1d+: i don't agre
 RedLeopard 3k : white now needs to play on the right side
 sente 1d+: white has played 9 moves to capture it
 iaznab 1k+: w has played 9 moves to score about 40 points
 iaznab 1k+: seems good for w
 RedLeopard 3k : so how big a move is K16 then?
 sente 1d+: more like 26 points
 sente 1d+: very inefficient
 RedLeopard 3k : white now needs to play somewhere on the R line
 iaznab 1k+: conservatively it's 30 points, not counting b8/b9, not counting w extension into top side
 iaznab 1k+: and w got b4 in the deal
 iaznab 1k+: I feel the game is good for w
]
;W[hc]WL[2478]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : or O16 works?
 RedLeopard 3k : too late
]
;B[qh]BL[3012]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : I feel this last exchange was bad for white
 iaznab 1k+: h17 was probably slow
 RedLeopard 3k : w R13 would be much better than H17
 sente 1d+: it might end up being much more than 26 points, but at the time of my post, that's all it was
 sente 1d+: b4 is nice, sure, but that's got nothing to do with c4
 sente 1d+: c14
 iaznab 1k+: nah it was more than just 26 by my estimate
 iaznab 1k+: 26 is super conservative
]
;W[oj]WL[2380]C[
 iaznab 1k+: I think something like k3 was bigger than h17
 iaznab 1k+: also need to consider if b gets to play g17 instead
 iaznab 1k+: the game is easily still playable for both
 RedLeopard 3k : I am beginning to suspect why iaznab vs sente games are so hard to follow -- you guys clearly have very different estimates of even simple things like territory
]
;B[fq]BL[2911]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : this is ambitious!
 iaznab 1k+: yup, but very irritating
 sente 1d+: the bots hate black's position, but they hated it before c16, which hasn't really changed anything
 RedLeopard 3k : but white owed a move down there
 iaznab 1k+: this is why I thought k3 for w was bigger than h17
 iaznab 1k+: w can theoretically ignore g17
 iaznab 1k+: w can't ignore a move on bottom
 RedLeopard 3k : interesting K3 - I would have played G3 instead which is obvs slow
]
;W[gq]WL[2287]
;B[gr]BL[2897]C[
 iaznab 1k+: h3 for w?
 sente 1d+: but yes, katago might favour white by a lot of % but points are <10
 sente 1d+: so perfectly playable as iaznab says
 iaznab 1k+: next move for w is pretty hard
 RedLeopard 3k : kinda has to make black crawl
 sente 1d+: g4 best move for white
 iaznab 1k+: g4 is probably honte
 sente 1d+: black h2, white f2, which captures e4
]
;W[hq]WL[2093]C[
 sente 1d+: so white remains connected but good points for black
]
;B[hr]BL[2883]C[
 iaznab 1k+: g4, h2, e3 was straight capture
 sente 1d+: this is slightly better for black than the line I showed
]
;W[iq]WL[2052]C[
 sente 1d+: f4 empy triangle for black is interesting
 iaznab 1k+: white corner not 100% alive
 iaznab 1k+: so w needs care
 RedLeopard 3k : yes -- that shape has a name -- for moving out it is a tesuji
 iaznab 1k+: but w is now split into 2 groups
 sente 1d+: only if black plays f4
]
;B[er]BL[2805]C[
 sente 1d+: hmm, this is kind ok but is good shape for white
 sente 1d+: kind of ok
 iaznab 1k+: if w lives
 sente 1d+: white f4
 sente 1d+: black e3, white d2 is liave
 sente 1d+: alive
 Mai4ke1 7k : The Q6 stones are pretty strong though, so just one group for white to manage
 iaznab 1k+: yeah I think f4, e3, d2, make eye is probably forced
 sente 1d+: bearing in mind that e1 will be sente for white
]
;W[fp]WL[1921]C[
 iaznab 1k+: e1 is sente whether b plays e1 or f1 for life
]
;B[eq]BL[2774]
;W[dr]WL[1919]C[
 iaznab 1k+: erm d1
 iaznab 1k+: so e1, d1
 iaznab 1k+: or e1, f1
 iaznab 1k+: sorry f1, d1
 iaznab 1k+: both d1's are sente
 iaznab 1k+: I'm messing up d1 and e1 a lot
]
;B[fs]BL[2719]C[
 iaznab 1k+: d1, e1, j2, h1, b2?
 iaznab 1k+: I don't think w should tenuki
 sente 1d+: i'm pretty surewhite can tenuki, but it's pretty scary
]
;W[ds]WL[1756]
;B[es]BL[2716]
;W[ir]WL[1755]
;B[hs]BL[2714]C[
 sente 1d+: white has extended his lead somewhat
]
;W[lq]WL[1689]C[
 iaznab 1k+: yeah I don't think b got enough with f3
 sente 1d+: yep, premature
]
;B[mp]BL[2688]C[
 sente 1d+: e2 was a mistake
 sente 1d+: needed to be f3
 sente 1d+: f4
 iaznab 1k+: f4 was a nice shape move yeah
]
;W[qf]WL[1648]
;B[ho]BL[2659]C[
 sente 1d+: c4 sets up a nice carpenter's square
 iaznab 1k+: hmm b can feel he's behind hence h5
]
;W[io]WL[1620]C[
 sente 1d+: he really isn't far behind
]
;B[in]BL[2632]
;W[jo]WL[1613]
;B[hn]BL[2620]
;W[hp]WL[1600]C[
 sente 1d+: h4 is nice for black
 sente 1d+: very submissive
 iaznab 1k+: yup
 iaznab 1k+: b can aim at stuff like l2
 sente 1d+: those 3 stones aren't that important
 sente 1d+: k6 better for white
 iaznab 1k+: agreed
 iaznab 1k+: k6 also sets up n6 followup
]
;B[pf]BL[2537]C[
 iaznab 1k+: w was thinking to live and make j4 eye
 iaznab 1k+: but instead might now get pressured from the outside and forced to make 2 eyes
 iaznab 1k+: k6 is still big
 RedLeopard 3k : they've been playing in the bottom left all along
]
;W[qg]WL[1314]
;B[pg]BL[2519]
;W[rh]WL[1311]C[
 sente 1d+: this is pretty good for black
]
;B[ph]BL[2492]C[
 sente 1d+: c4, c3b2, b3, a1 is interesting
]
;W[ri]WL[1271]C[
 sente 1d+: sorry, a2 as last move
 Mai4ke1 7k : I think it becomes seki as long as white B5 is an option?
]
;B[ib]BL[2351]
;W[ic]WL[1243]
;B[jc]BL[2348]
;W[hb]WL[1241]
;B[he]BL[2334]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : hmm, or maybe not...
]
;W[nc]WL[1147]
;B[od]BL[2317]C[
 iaznab 1k+: o17 is ambitious
 RedLeopard 3k : it is a probe ;-0
]
;W[le]WL[1045]
;B[lc]BL[2295]C[
 sente 1d+: this game could get interesting
 sente 1d+: been rather tame so far
 Mai4ke1 7k : It does indeed seem like white owes a move in the bottom corner to live
]
;W[ld]WL[896]C[
 iaznab 1k+: w has 2 groups which are not fully alive
 iaznab 1k+: and is building a 3'rd
]
;B[mc]BL[2273]C[
 iaznab 1k+: m16?
]
;W[jf]WL[848]
;B[je]BL[2254]
;W[lg]WL[828]
;B[mf]BL[2246]
;W[lf]WL[819]
;B[li]BL[2229]
;W[jh]WL[757]
;B[jj]BL[2218]
;W[hh]WL[737]
;B[eh]BL[2211]
;W[eg]WL[718]
;B[di]BL[2204]
;W[ch]WL[692]
;B[fh]BL[2199]
;W[gf]WL[676]C[
 sente 1d+: back to 50/50 says the bots
 Mai4ke1 7k : The bots also say C4 was massive for a while
 Mai4ke1 7k : Black C4 or white B2
 sente 1d+: yes
 RedLeopard 3k : bots plural?
 Mai4ke1 7k : B9 was indeed a mistake. B8 or D9 were options there
 Mai4ke1 7k : True, I just checked one bot :(
 Mai4ke1 7k : But hey, they're multithreaded, right?
]
;B[km]BL[1990]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : SE on pandanet thinks the bottom left is dead :P
 Mai4ke1 7k : SE is not wrong
 RedLeopard 3k : except it changed its mind now that it is white's turn
 RedLeopard 3k : L7 is an attack
]
;W[mr]WL[570]
;B[nr]BL[1986]
;W[kr]WL[513]
;B[ii]BL[1968]C[
 sente 1d+: is that sente?
 RedLeopard 3k : funny YOU should ask
 sente 1d+: white h14 is a nice reply that hurts black
]
;W[hf]WL[458]C[
 sente 1d+: is black trying to get points in the middle?
]
;B[ge]BL[1957]C[
 sente 1d+: is white watching my comments?
 RedLeopard 3k : the middle is straw!
]
;W[fe]WL[449]C[
 sente 1d+: the middle is indeed trash
]
;B[br]BL[1900]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : here we go
]
;W[bq]WL[436]
;B[cp]BL[1882]
;W[cq]WL[430]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : I wonder when someone's going to play in the bottom left?
 Mai4ke1 7k : The score seems to be W+5 or B+0.5 depending who gets there first
]
;B[ar]BL[1798]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : B2 directly wasn't the best, but then B3 should have been at C4 to refute
 sente 1d+: this is a ko i think
 RedLeopard 3k : isn't that the proverb?
 Mai4ke1 7k : B1 was better than A2
]
;W[bo]WL[335]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Yes, it does seem to be a ko
]
;B[ao]BL[1776]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Or rather should have been one
 Mai4ke1 7k : B1 better than A5
 Mai4ke1 7k : White's main time is nearly up
]
;W[bs]WL[163]
;B[cr]BL[1729]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : I think this is a seki
 sente 1d+: that's surely wrong
 Mai4ke1 7k : B6 for the ko
]
;W[ap]WL[142]C[
 sente 1d+: or at least a ko
 sente 1d+: seki isn't enough
 RedLeopard 3k : :P
 Mai4ke1 7k : W+11.5 as it stands
 Mai4ke1 7k : err 11.8
]
;B[al]BL[1632]C[
 RedLeopard 3k : interesting -- well kudos to white to leave the corner
]
;W[bn]WL[74]
;B[an]BL[1548]
;W[am]WL[70]
;B[an]BL[1547]
;W[cs]WL[69]
;B[aj]BL[1544]
;W[bi]WL[5]
;B[gd]BL[1523]
;W[fc]WL[599]
;B[nl]BL[1504]
;W[ok]WL[581]
;B[ro]BL[1483]
;W[rn]WL[573]
;B[sn]BL[1481]
;W[sm]WL[571]
;B[so]BL[1480]
;W[rl]WL[511]
;B[qe]BL[1419]
;W[hi]WL[468]
;B[hj]BL[1415]
;W[ns]WL[442]
;B[os]BL[1397]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : adavies and jameshutch played last year Feb
]
;W[ms]WL[440]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Same colours
]
;B[pr]BL[1391]
;W[jn]WL[427]
;B[jm]BL[1388]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : black played R16-O16 on the top corner, and white dual 4-4 point
]
;W[mj]WL[404]
;B[lk]BL[1375]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Q4 happened, but white chose Q7 instead of Q6
]
;W[mk]WL[380]
;B[ml]BL[1370]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : At move 145, black was up by +3.5
]
;W[lj]WL[364]
;B[kj]BL[1363]
;W[ll]WL[350]
;B[kk]BL[1361]
;W[ln]WL[348]
;B[kn]BL[1352]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : The game ended B+1.5, but black was up by about 10 points for most of the mid game
]
;W[lp]WL[302]C[
 sente 1d+: this is pretty close
 sente 1d+: black has caught up a bit i think
 sente 1d+: the center turned into a few points
]
;B[ko]BL[1198]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Indeed, W+3 and 87.4%
]
;W[kp]WL[238]
;B[lo]BL[1185]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Black D13 is apparently a thing. I guess it's a squeeze?
]
;W[ne]WL[156]
;B[nd]BL[1149]
;W[jb]WL[111]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : 2 min for 8 stones...
]
;B[kb]BL[1144]
;W[ia]WL[110]
;B[fn]BL[1132]
;W[gi]WL[98]
;B[gj]BL[1123]
;W[re]WL[88]
;B[rd]BL[1119]
;W[rf]WL[85]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : F6 lost points
]
;B[ih]BL[1062]C[
 sente 1d+: score estimate?
]
;W[if]WL[62]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : It was W+4 before K12, now W+5.6
]
;B[ie]BL[1043]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : T16 white's best move
]
;W[nn]WL[38]
;B[mn]BL[1031]
;W[sd]WL[23]
;B[sc]BL[1028]
;W[se]WL[599]
;B[rc]BL[1026]
;W[me]WL[546]
;B[ol]BL[1022]
;W[pl]WL[544]
;B[fd]BL[1017]
;W[ed]WL[542]
;B[gc]BL[1014]
;W[gb]WL[541]
;B[fg]BL[1005]
;W[ff]WL[539]
;B[ig]BL[968]
;W[hg]WL[528]
;B[jg]BL[960]
;W[kh]WL[397]
;B[mh]BL[888]
;W[kf]WL[378]
;B[no]BL[866]
;W[oo]WL[354]
;B[op]BL[854]
;W[go]WL[343]
;B[gn]BL[851]
;W[cn]WL[338]
;B[dn]BL[848]
;W[oe]WL[303]
;B[pe]BL[845]
;W[om]WL[269]
;B[nm]BL[816]
;W[on]WL[261]
;B[ni]BL[723]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : A12 and D13 are the big area at the moment
]
;W[mg]WL[241]
;B[nf]BL[643]
;W[ng]WL[220]
;B[of]BL[641]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : Lots of options for white, but A11 probably the best
]
;W[ki]WL[164]
;B[nh]BL[612]C[
 sente 1d+: is black b12 any good?
]
;W[kd]WL[101]
;B[kc]BL[608]
;W[nk]WL[88]
;B[mm]BL[599]
;W[lh]WL[84]
;B[mi]BL[586]
;W[pi]WL[69]
;B[oi]BL[567]
;W[fi]WL[46]
;B[ei]BL[564]
;W[dg]WL[43]
;B[qi]BL[554]
;W[pj]WL[41]
;B[fj]BL[552]
;W[ai]WL[580]
;B[ak]BL[547]
;W[ka]WL[562]
;B[la]BL[541]
;W[ja]WL[560]
;B[is]BL[527]
;W[js]WL[548]
;B[ci]BL[497]
;W[bh]WL[541]
;B[md]BL[495]
;W[ji]WL[534]
;B[en]BL[429]C[
 Mai4ke1 7k : No, in that area A12, B13, or D13
]
;W[gp]WL[528]
;B[ij]BL[424]
;W[nj]WL[514]
;B[oh]BL[422]
;W[ao]WL[502]
;B[am]BL[419]
;W[mq]WL[487]
;B[pp]BL[410]
;W[tt]WL[479]
;B[tt]BL[402]
;W[tt]WL[479]C[
 adavies 3d : adavies dead @ O17
 adavies 3d : adavies dead @ M8
 jameshutch 2d+: jameshutch dead @ C14
 adavies 3d : adavies dead @ M6
 jameshutch 2d+: jameshutch dead @ D8
 jameshutch done
];

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