(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[glGo:1.4]ST[1] SZ[19]KM[6.5] PW[Cornel]WR[9d]PB[redrose]BR[3p]RE[B+4.5]TM[600]DT[2011-04-05]PC[IGS-PandaNet]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2011] ;B[pd] ;W[dp] ;B[pq] ;W[dc] ;B[qk] ;W[mq] ;B[po] ;W[jq] ;B[de] ;W[gc] ;B[cj] ;W[cn] ;B[cc] ;W[cb] ;B[cd] ;W[eb] ;B[dh] ;W[qf] ;B[qe] ;W[pf] ;B[nc] ;W[qi] ;B[ph] ;W[qh] ;B[rf] ;W[rg] ;B[re] ;W[qp] ;B[qo] ;W[pi] ;B[dr] ;W[dq] ;B[er] ;W[cr] ;B[br] ;W[cq] ;B[hq] ;W[gr] ;B[lp] ;W[lq] ;B[hr] ;W[kp] ;B[gq] ;W[lc] ;B[ne] ;W[ds] ;B[fr] ;W[le] ;B[ok] ;W[qm] ;B[rn] ;W[rk] ;B[ql] ;W[rl] ;B[rm] ;W[qj] ;B[pm] ;W[eh] ;B[dg] ;W[ff] ;B[kf] ;W[nb] ;B[mb] ;W[mc] ;B[lb] ;W[ob] ;B[kc] ;W[kd] ;B[jc] ;W[qc]C[malf [ 4k \]: :) Lovro [ 1d?\]: go Romania!! hippomanes [ 5d?\]: speaking as a non-partisan, "go Romania!" :)] ;B[pc] ;W[pb] ;B[rc] ;W[rb] ;B[qd] ;W[qb] ;B[nd] ;W[jd]C[pilgrim [ 2d+\]: 3-1 would be awesome] ;B[ic]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: Cornel can not lose now I think Gabi [ 6d+\]: thx for all Romania fans pilgrim [ 2d+\]: u don't know Cornel then :)...he can lose any game :) malf [ 4k \]: yeah, he's been complaining about losing focus in shuban :) pilgrim [ 2d+\]: evening malf malf [ 4k \]: hi pilgrim :) hippomanes [ 5d?\]: 016 it is. But doesn't look so hot. Gabi [ 6d+\]: where is the 4 th game? Nadii88 [17k+\]: was played on saturday Gabi [ 6d+\]: result? Nadii88 [17k+\]: Romania won Nadii88 [17k+\]: +1,5 Gabi [ 6d+\]: thx pilgrim [ 2d+\]: the fourth game was already played on Saturday...Romania won pilgrim [ 2d+\]: he need to make that life aragog [ 3d?\]: looks good 4 black] ;W[sc] ;B[ld] ;W[md] ;B[me] ;W[ld] ;B[lf] ;W[id] ;B[hd] ;W[if] ;B[hc]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: Not sure W is much ahead. But before this he was defo behind Gabi [ 6d+\]: w not ahead but have cut hippomanes [ 5d?\]: How much is the cut worth, then? :) hippomanes [ 5d?\]: Yes, I agree] ;W[mg]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: all the sente moves he can obtain] ;B[mf] ;W[ih] ;B[ng]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: is e12 for d13 good for W?] ;W[nh]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: Q13 make w unhappy Gabi [ 6d+\]: he must prevent Gabi [ 6d+\]: F16 v good] ;B[mh] ;W[mi]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: F16 maybe is not kill] ;B[lg]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: g18 looks important] ;W[li]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: yes , g18 before J12 was better I think Gabi [ 6d+\]: not kill but sente connect shimamura [ 6d?\]: G16 is a dame, only help black to make eyes hippomanes [ 5d?\]: and points Gabi [ 6d+\]: if w help J14 in sente he may take b base] ;B[oh] ;W[ni] ;B[of]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: black escape to easy with his both groups Gabi [ 6d+\]: M11 N11 O11 J12 in sente not easy] ;W[gb]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: well for me black escape to easy hippomanes [ 5d?\]: My feeling too Gabi [ 6d+\]: M11 J12 sente permit G18 hippomanes [ 5d?\]: But I'd probably do the same :(] ;B[fe]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: e15 unfortunately not very interesting I think Gabi [ 6d+\]: G18 ask F15 w need strengt J14 with J12 M11 in sente Gabi [ 6d+\]: this is the cut strategy not only capture pilgrim [ 2d+\]: h15? and f14? Gabi [ 6d+\]: H15 sente w may tenuki pilgrim [ 2d+\]: I mean w to play now h15 Gabi [ 6d+\]: H15 b shimamura [ 6d?\]: H15 should be black sente, he miss not to play] ;W[he]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: W still thin - p10 and k11 pilgrim [ 2d+\]: good man...now e16 is sente life for w Gabi [ 6d+\]: H15 double sente w take it] ;B[gd]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: yes but H15 was a big - for black to miss hippomanes [ 5d?\]: he must have thought aji keshi. Typical pro mistake :-P] ;W[dd]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: not a mistake shimamura [ 6d?\]: this was bad again pilgrim [ 2d+\]: why not e16? Gabi [ 6d+\]: w not v happy] ;B[ef]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: (joke) shimamura [ 6d?\]: good answer] ;W[ce] ;B[be]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: now maybe K11 attack white group Gabi [ 6d+\]: D16 E14 not sure good for w] ;W[bb]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: gote] ;B[oi] ;W[nk]C[pilgrim [ 2d+\]: but big hippomanes [ 5d?\]: But thin shimamura [ 6d?\]: black miss K11 Gabi [ 6d+\]: H15 maybe better tenuki for w] ;B[oj] ;W[ri]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: K11 and center no points grikdog [17k?\]: yet Gabi [ 6d+\]: w make b cut now] ;B[ki]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: Or L11!] ;W[kj] ;B[ji]C[hippomanes [ 5d?\]: L11 nice. Missed it] ;W[hj] ;B[jj]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: w ask for troble Gabi [ 6d+\]: trouble hippomanes [ 5d?\]: does he have a choice? Gabi [ 6d+\]: H15 expand center Gabi [ 6d+\]: B18 not urgent hippomanes [ 5d?\]: p11 was sente cut. White just too thin with his earlier moves round here hippomanes [ 5d?\]: W 2 weak groups, Back none Gabi [ 6d+\]: now Im sad , w v hard Gabi [ 6d+\]: on his choise hippomanes [ 5d?\]: short on time... azalea [ 3d \]: does anyone know the story behind these matches? azalea [ 3d \]: are these tournament games online? Gabi [ 6d+\]: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps] ;W[jk]C[djab [ 7k+\]: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/rounds/7 azalea [ 3d \]: neat, thanks hippomanes [ 5d?\]: L9 and M9 and W has damezumari shimamura [ 6d?\]: L11 and N9? work shimamura [ 6d?\]: M10 and N9 sorry Gabi [ 6d+\]: w may sacrif M11 to escape cut hippomanes [ 5d?\]: Ah, ladder shimamura [ 6d?\]: ladder for black hippomanes [ 5d?\]: right] ;B[kk]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: this is more severe P1X3L [ 9k \]: who pro player is redrose? hippomanes [ 5d?\]: Yes, M10 and N9, white can sac and squeeze...] ;W[jl]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: now you can see value of dame F16, connecting v important malf [ 4k \]: Svetlana Shikshina hippomanes [ 5d?\]: ...and get a few points in the centre at h5 perhaps P1X3L [ 9k \]: o O P1X3L [ 9k \]: ty malf [ 4k \]: welcome hippomanes [ 5d?\]: This looks hopeless for W now. :-( shimamura [ 6d?\]: N9 Gabi [ 6d+\]: D16 E14 B18 dezaster for w] ;B[lj]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: N9 better I think P1X3L [ 9k \]: w can get lower right corner shimamura [ 6d?\]: no , only in byoyomi maybe] ;W[cf]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: w must be KGB agent to play D16 B18 :)] ;B[bf] ;W[bd] ;B[cg] ;W[kl] ;B[ll] ;W[lm]C[s600 [ 1k+\]: w plans to attack H2 now? shimamura [ 6d?\]: now black think at N7 Gabi [ 6d+\]: N7 L12 big aji] ;B[ik] ;W[ij]C[P1X3L [ 9k \]: oh this is tournament game :)] ;B[mm] ;W[ml] ;B[lk]C[malf [ 4k \]: league malf [ 4k \]: these are top two teams in League A of the European Team Championship Gabi [ 6d+\]: J9 =? andg99 [17k+\]: redrose is Svetlana Shikshina?] ;W[kn]C[icewater [ 3k+\]: yes icewater [ 3k+\]: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/rounds/7] ;B[mn] ;W[kh] ;B[jh] ;W[jg]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: J9 not good for me] ;B[kg]C[azalea [ 3d \]: seems pretty hard for w Gabi [ 6d+\]: w eliminate aji in sente azalea [ 3d \]: at least he managed to get rid of that weak group, but at a high cost azalea [ 3d \]: Gabi - do you think w could win from here? Gabi [ 6d+\]: now have a chance icewater [ 3k+\]: p2 or q2?] ;W[cl]C[azalea [ 3d \]: q2 outright fails I think icewater [ 3k+\]: yeah prob true ;) Gabi [ 6d+\]: Q2 is more pro :) Palko [ 5d?\]: b should E1 i think] ;B[ho]C[azalea [ 3d \]: does it work though?] ;W[or] ;B[pr]C[azalea [ 3d \]: :)] ;W[oq]C[drojdie [ 1k \]: who is redrose? Palko [ 5d?\]: shikshina icewater [ 3k+\]: Svetlana shikshina azalea [ 3d \]: Svetlana Shikshina icewater [ 3k+\]: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/rounds/7] ;B[qq]C[azalea [ 3d \]: I don't think they get along very well, I heard second hand that he once described her as 'a monster' Gabi [ 6d+\]: 'a monster' ?] ;W[no]C[grikdog [17k?\]: b has very deep game] ;B[hg] ;W[ig] ;B[gf]C[malf [ 4k \]: big win by Pop Gabi [ 6d+\]: what kind of pro are this? Gabi [ 6d+\]: on Rusian standard? icewater [ 3k+\]: no] ;W[gn]C[malf [ 4k \]: Korean azalea [ 3d \]: by special decision icewater [ 3k+\]: svetlana given 3p by korean baduk association icewater [ 3k+\]: she went to study go in korea Gabi [ 6d+\]: thx] ;B[hn] ;W[gm] ;B[go]C[malf [ 4k \]: she was promoted at the same time as dinerchtein, even though she was inactive at the time malf [ 4k \]: she took time off to have a baby Estie [ 7k+\]: go baby ? hogweed [ 1d \]: please focus on the game hogweed [ 1d \]: no unrelated game chat please] ;W[hm] ;B[bk] ;W[nm]C[Estie [ 7k+\]: all right...though one could argue if that was related or not :/] ;B[nn] ;W[on]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: Romanian player do well against pro today] ;B[om] ;W[mo] ;B[nl]C[Estie [ 7k+\]: catalin and cornel ?] ;W[ln] ;B[mk] ;W[bl]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: Pop pilgrim [ 2d+\]: ok pilgrim [ 2d+\]: we have 2-0 now :) pilgrim [ 2d+\]: and Catalin is looking good] ;B[ej]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: D16 B18 J9 ugly moves] ;W[ii] ;B[lh] ;W[ge]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: Cornel won shimamura [ 6d?\]: 1.5 points] ;B[fg]C[MrChance [ 3d?\]: sure its not 0.5? :)] ;W[fd] ;B[fc] ;W[ed] ;B[hb] ;W[fb]C[vaca [ 5d?\]: why not start with N19> vaca [ 5d?\]: instead of cut pogacsa [ 8d \]: BURNel already won?] ;B[jb] ;W[ma] ;B[ka]C[vaca [ 5d?\]: Cpop won too, are amateurs becoming stronger than pros?] ;W[dk]C[MrChance [ 3d?\]: ^^ malf [ 4k \]: Pop was insei] ;B[al] ;W[am] ;B[ak] ;W[dj]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: Pop v strong ama] ;B[di] ;W[ck] ;B[bi] ;W[fp]C[icewater [ 3k+\]: f4 nice attacking mentaility] ;B[jr] ;W[kr] ;B[js]C[icewater [ 3k+\]: f5 most likely, otherwise e10 Gameover [ 2d+\]: F10 may be better icewater [ 3k+\]: yeah that is what i meant when i said e10 ;) Gabi [ 6d+\]: E9 F5 miai] ;W[bm]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: so B7] ;B[ek] ;W[el] ;B[gk] ;W[gj]C[Palko [ 5d?\]: W+3points is my count Liso [ 8k?\]: http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/rounds/7 B+11.5 - it has to be B+17.5] ;B[fk] ;W[hk] ;B[sl] ;W[sj]C[Gameover [ 2d+\]: Cornel lost Palko [ 5d?\]: why you think so? azalea [ 3d \]: If a 2d+ said so it must be true] ;B[df]C[azalea [ 3d \]: thats the voice of authority speaking] ;W[bc] ;B[fo]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: J9 give w a chance azalea [ 3d \]: why do you dislike j9 so much? you cited it as a bad move a couple times] ;W[eo]C[azalea [ 3d \]: what about it?] ;B[fn]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: Cornel can not lose this game icewater [ 3k+\]: i guess black could have attacked white group in a stronger manner without playing j9 Gabi [ 6d+\]: J9 permit w so be thik in sente for N6 gain s600 [ 1k+\]: when did you play shimamura?] ;W[fh]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: saturday pilgrim [ 2d+\]: I mean it would be so weird to beat Russia with 4-0] ;B[gh] ;W[fi] ;B[ei]C[s600 [ 1k+\]: you won with surin? shimamura [ 6d?\]: yes s600 [ 1k+\]: congrats shimamura [ 6d?\]: thx Gabi [ 6d+\]: all 6 7 d in Romania are old dino :) shimamura [ 6d?\]: so many upsets in this game] ;W[ps]C[s600 [ 1k+\]: you're the best scorer for Romania s600 [ 1k+\]: hagi shimamura [ 6d?\]: well still 2 games] ;B[qs] ;W[pp] ;B[rp] ;W[op] ;B[os] ;W[ns] ;B[ps] ;W[ks] ;B[iq]C[icewater [ 3k+\]: looks like white wins by komi] ;W[na] ;B[la] ;W[rd] ;B[jp] ;W[kq] ;B[jo] ;W[oo] ;B[en] ;W[dn]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: I lose my bet will be 4-0] ;B[im] ;W[in] ;B[jn] ;W[jm] ;B[io] ;W[il] ;B[pg] ;W[qg] ;B[ko] ;W[lo]C[pogacsa [ 8d \]: b+] ;B[ce]C[Palko [ 5d?\]: pogacsa, focus on your game :)] ;W[fq]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: well he count well] ;B[es] ;W[cs]C[Palko [ 5d?\]: hm, very close game] ;B[hf] ;W[ie]C[Palko [ 5d?\]: i guess w+0,5 pogacsa [ 8d \]: b ahead by more than 10 on the board] ;B[em] ;W[eq] ;B[gs] ;W[dm]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: b +] ;B[pn] ;W[gp] ;B[hp] ;W[ee] ;B[ff] ;W[pk] ;B[pl] ;W[pj] ;B[ad] ;W[ac] ;B[ae] ;W[ha] ;B[ia] ;W[ga] ;B[gl] ;W[hl] ;B[sg] ;W[sh] ;B[se] ;W[sd] ;B[hh] ;W[sk] ;B[sm]C[Kolibri [ 1k+\]: w+0.5?] ;W[pe]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: b] ;B[in] ;W[oc] ;B[od] ;W[sf] ;B[fl] ;W[dl] ;B[sg] ;W[bj]C[Gameover [ 2d+\]: B+4.5 or 5.5] ;B[aj]C[betterlife [ 2d?\]: b+4 1/2] ;W[sf] ;B[do] ;W[co] ;B[sg] ;W[jf] ;B[ke] ;W[sf] ;B[gi] ;W[fj] ;B[sg] ;W[ci] ;B[ch] ;W[sf] ;B[nr] ;W[ms] ;B[sg] ;W[ai] ;B[ah] ;W[sf] ;B[mr] ;W[ls] ;B[sg] ;W[rq] ;B[rr] ;W[sf] ;B[sb] ;W[sa] ;B[sg] ;W[ro]C[Gabi [ 6d+\]: 3-1] ;B[so] ;W[sf] ;B[db] ;W[da] ;B[sg] ;W[sp] ;B[sq] ;W[sf] ;B[oe] ;W[sg] ;B[fm]C[shimamura [ 6d?\]: 3-1 I won my bet then] ;W[tt] ;B[tt] ;W[tt]TB[af][ag][ai][bg][bh][bj][cf][ci][fs][gg][gr][hs][ib][ip][ir][is][ja][kb][kh][kj][li][mg][mi][mj][ml][nf][nh][ni][nj][nk][nm][og][ol][qm][qn][qr][ro][rq][rs][sn][sp][sr][ss]TW[aa][ab][an][ao][ap][aq][ar][as][ba][bn][bo][bp][bq][br][bs][ca][cm][cp][db][do][ea][ec][ep][fa][fc][ik][km][lp][lr][mp][mr][np][nq][nr][oa][pa][qa][ra][rc][rh][rj][sb][si]C[W 68.5 B 73.0])