(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[GoPanda:1.0]ST[1]
SZ[19]KM[6.5]
PW[Marigo]WR[4d?]PB[vaneeden]BR[5d+]RE[W+R]DT[2012-09-25]PC[IGS-PandaNet]

;B[qd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[hc]
;B[oc]
;W[kc]
;B[cf]
;W[fd]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[ed]
;B[fb]
;W[cj]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[bc]
;W[ce]
;B[fq]
;W[ip]
;B[cn]
;W[cq]
;B[eo]
;W[do]
;B[dn]
;W[en]
;B[fo]
;W[em]
;B[bp]
;W[bq]
;B[cl]
;W[bo]
;B[bn]
;W[ek]
;B[co]
;W[er]
;B[eq]
;W[dr]
;B[fr]
;W[br]
;B[fl]
;W[el]
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[in]
;W[jn]
;B[im]
;W[jm]
;B[il]
;W[jl]
;B[ik]
;W[hp]
;B[gp]
;W[nq]
;B[po]
;W[no]
;B[id]
;W[ic]
;B[bf]
;W[af]
;B[dj]
;W[ck]
;B[dk]
;W[dl]
;B[bl]
;W[ci]
;B[di]
;W[fj]
;B[ch]
;W[dh]
;B[eh]
;W[dg]
;B[ei]
;W[bh]
;B[eg]
;W[df]
;B[hh]
;W[gh]
;B[gg]
;W[gi]
;B[hg]
;W[hi]
;B[ii]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[ij]
;B[jh]
;W[jj]
;B[jk]
;W[kj]
;B[kk]
;W[lj]
;B[gk]
;W[hj]
;B[gn]
;W[lh]
;B[lf]
;W[qm]
;B[rn]
;W[hd]
;B[jf]
;W[ng]
;B[ld]
;W[lc]
;B[md]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[oq]
;B[pp]
;W[qf]
;B[rm]
;W[qk]
;B[ql]
;W[pl]
;B[rl]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[pd]
;B[qc]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]
;W[nc]
;B[nd]
;W[of]
;B[jd]
;W[hb]
;B[pk]
;W[qj]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]
;B[ol]
;W[he]
;B[na]
;W[mb]
;B[hf]
;W[ie]C[pancake [3d?\]: q15! :)
MrZNF [4d?\]: why?
pancake [3d?\]: oh wait, did he just create a cut in his own shape? :/
pancake [3d?\]: what was H14? :/]
;B[ke]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: h14 because otherwise f13 works]
;W[od]C[pancake [3d?\]: ooh aha
pancake [3d?\]: nasty
MrZNF [4d?\]: but black is looking a little thin here :(]
;B[lg]C[pancake [3d?\]: now s15 also sente
MrZNF [4d?\]: yes, so maybe it would´ve been better to sac e13
pancake [3d?\]: yup
MrZNF [4d?\]: but b doesn´t have that many points anyway, looks hard for Gilles
pancake [3d?\]: take 2 big points elsewhere
pancake [3d?\]: J2, for example ;)
MrZNF [4d?\]: not elsewhere, has to be some kind of connection
MrZNF [4d?\]: otherwise b still dies as a whole
herminator [4d?\]: black really missed his chance, IMO, at move 87
herminator [4d?\]: SHould've been K11 instead of J11...
MrZNF [4d?\]: I think g6 was a fatal mistake, it´s like a pass really or am I missing some obvious kill?]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]
;W[re]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: I´m not sure if k11 works]
;B[rb]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: looks very complicated]
;W[nl]C[herminator [4d?\]: true]
;B[nk]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: I think white will survive, the f13 aji is too bad]
;W[ml]C[herminator [4d?\]: and gilles thought quite long on it too, so maybe he read that it does;t work]
;B[pi]C[pancake [3d?\]: j2 please]
;W[qh]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: instead of k9, I think it would´ve been better for b to just g9 and go somewhere else, if it is not alive yet, b can h3 to live, but pushing out made k12 weaker]
;B[mk]C[pancake [3d?\]: black has a cunning plan
herminator [4d?\]: good]
;W[ll]
;B[lk]C[pancake [3d?\]: is he even ahead? 0_o]
;W[mh]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: I don´t think so, white looks quite good]
;B[kl]C[pancake [3d?\]: daaaamn]
;W[ln]C[herminator [4d?\]: K3?
pancake [3d?\]: so needs some endgame
MrZNF [4d?\]: but it´s still close, might depend on komi right now]
;B[hq]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: w has around 60 points I think, b has a bit more than 50, and it´s hard for b to really make more points
MrZNF [4d?\]: this is very big though]
;W[jr]
;B[hr]C[herminator [4d?\]: k3 no work?
pancake [3d?\]: dunno]
;W[kq]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: k3, j2, then what?
herminator [4d?\]: k5]
;B[km]
;W[kn]C[pancake [3d?\]: k4 l5 l6 in that case?
pancake [3d?\]: p2 is huge
MrZNF [4d?\]: yeah, p2 now might turn the game around]
;B[sj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: w should ignore and p2
MrZNF [4d?\]: hopefully he doesn´t
pancake [3d?\]: how big is it? hmm]
;W[om]
;B[pm]
;W[kh]
;B[kg]
;W[ji]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: p2 is at least 12 points, little more
herminator [4d?\]: N13?]
;B[mf]C[pancake [3d?\]: at least 10, you mean
pancake [3d?\]: a bit more then 10 I think
MrZNF [4d?\]: hmm]
;W[ff]
;B[fg]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: yeah
pancake [3d?\]: hard to calculate
MrZNF [4d?\]: like 11 or something :)
MrZNF [4d?\]: yeah, depends on who gets s1 and what happens to t2
pancake [3d?\]: don't feel like doing that right now xD]
;W[or]C[pancake [3d?\]: yes
pancake [3d?\]: DAMN
pancake [3d?\]: :(
MrZNF [4d?\]: ouch :/]
;B[sh]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: b wants to kill w it seems
pancake [3d?\]: won't work
MrZNF [4d?\]: but really, r1 is biggest now I think]
;W[si]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: w can ignore this as well]
;B[ri]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: wut]
;W[sk]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: why´d he do that..]
;B[rk]
;W[rj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: giving away lots of points there
MrZNF [4d?\]: (2) :p
pancake [3d?\]: this is the only way to black I think]
;B[rg]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: ?!
pancake [3d?\]: wooooow!
MrZNF [4d?\]: gilles seems desperate all of a sudden]
;W[qg]C[pancake [3d?\]: oh]
;B[sl]C[pancake [3d?\]: white's scared]
;W[qs]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: I think white counts himself ahead and just wants sente for r1
MrZNF [4d?\]: it was the biggest move after p2
pancake [3d?\]: yup
MrZNF [4d?\]: which made p2 even bigger]
;B[oh]C[pancake [3d?\]: black's endgame is a bit worrisome
pancake [3d?\]: 14 lives]
;W[rh]C[pancake [3d?\]: T14
pancake [3d?\]: this as well p
pancake [3d?\]: :p*]
;B[si]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: black can capture q16 now
pancake [3d?\]: nice
pancake [3d?\]: but s2 bigger :p
MrZNF [4d?\]: yup]
;W[og]C[pancake [3d?\]: b9 also very big btw]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: b should´ve maybe exchanged that before, hmm, p13 that is]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]
;B[sg]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: this looks like wasted kothreats now]
;W[sf]
;B[sk]C[pancake [3d?\]: yes]
;W[sd]
;B[rr]
;W[bk]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: ouch again :(
pancake [3d?\]: a9 or s1?]
;B[on]
;W[nn]
;B[nm]
;W[mm]C[pancake [3d?\]: ah a9 also sort of sente for white
pancake [3d?\]: a8*]
;B[lm]
;W[om]C[pancake [3d?\]: not sort of, just sente :p
MrZNF [4d?\]: a9 as well
pancake [3d?\]: a9 now black]
;B[nh]
;W[mg]
;B[nm]
;W[mn]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: a9 huge]
;B[ak]
;W[aj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: lucky us]
;B[al]C[pancake [3d?\]: maybe s1 bigger now?
MrZNF [4d?\]: yeah probably, a11 only ko]
;W[cp]
;B[ao]
;W[rs]C[pancake [3d?\]: 3 points gote otherwise
MrZNF [4d?\]: why 3?
pancake [3d?\]: how much do you think it is then?
MrZNF [4d?\]: w loses 4 points if w gets it, b captures a stone, so it´s 5 divided by two, because of the ko
MrZNF [4d?\]: I thin
MrZNF [4d?\]: think*]
;B[ai]C[pancake [3d?\]: ah no, 4 points then
pancake [3d?\]: w loses 3]
;W[bi]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: oh wait, yeah sorry]
;B[bj]C[pancake [3d?\]: but winning ko is sente for black
MrZNF [4d?\]: how come?
pancake [3d?\]: so not really ko
pancake [3d?\]: a13 a15 b13 after connecting ko]
;W[sr]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: right, that is big
MrZNF [4d?\]: did not see a13
pancake [3d?\]: can b play this ko?
MrZNF [4d?\]: so maybe b can ignore this]
;B[rp]
;W[aj]C[pancake [3d?\]: oh :(
MrZNF [4d?\]: s4??
MrZNF [4d?\]: that should be s3]
;B[jc]C[pancake [3d?\]: t3 maybe possible]
;W[jb]C[pancake [3d?\]: I think it was possible]
;B[bj]C[pancake [3d?\]: he had lots of kothreats]
;W[aq]C[pancake [3d?\]: and winning t1 ko by capturing q1 would've been great
pancake [3d?\]: even in exchange for the other ko]
;B[ap]
;W[aj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: it´s possible anyway it seems, because even if w captures t3, b can atari at s4 and white cannot connect still]
;B[mi]
;W[li]
;B[bj]
;W[an]
;B[am]
;W[aj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: f9]
;B[gj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: or n17]
;W[fi]
;B[bj]
;W[hk]C[pancake [3d?\]: now ignore?]
;B[hl]
;W[aj]
;B[mc]
;W[lb]C[pancake [3d?\]: black's last threat?]
;B[bj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: q14 is a threat for white, and p19 etc.
herminator [4d?\]: still f9
MrZNF [4d?\]: white has many threats there]
;W[ne]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: f9 loses points
MrZNF [4d?\]: it seems b will lose this ko :(]
;B[me]
;W[aj]
;B[ps]
;W[os]
;B[bj]
;W[sq]C[pancake [3d?\]: connect!
MrZNF [4d?\]: definitely]
;B[aj]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: nice, and now I wonder if b is ahead or not]
;W[ad]C[pancake [3d?\]: A13!!!!!!!!
MrZNF [4d?\]: no can do, a15 connect is sente
pancake [3d?\]: ooooh
pancake [3d?\]: :P
pancake [3d?\]: I'm a bit too enthousiastic]
;B[ac]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: a17 first, then if w connects, b gets a12
MrZNF [4d?\]: if w a12, b gets to a15
MrZNF [4d?\]: and b gets sente, so all is good, hopefully...
pancake [3d?\]: have you counted?]
;W[ah]
;B[ae]
;W[bg]
;B[ag]
;W[cg]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: b has 55 right now I believe]
;B[ef]C[pancake [3d?\]: still quite close I think
pancake [3d?\]: N10 is really large
MrZNF [4d?\]: quite close is w + 3 or 4 I think
MrZNF [4d?\]: komi is too big :(]
;W[fm]C[pancake [3d?\]: daaamn
MrZNF [4d?\]: hmm, maybe n10 is biggest now
pancake [3d?\]: N10 bigger]
;B[gm]
;W[mj]C[pancake [3d?\]: 2 points sente vs 3,5 pints sente
MrZNF [4d?\]: this is not sente
MrZNF [4d?\]: just tenuki]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: ok, well yeah
MrZNF [4d?\]: now it became sente :(
pancake [3d?\]: g15 first maybe
pancake [3d?\]: oh g15 is not sente either :p
pancake [3d?\]: hmmz...
MrZNF [4d?\]: p19 is big]
;B[oa]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: yay]
;W[fa]C[pancake [3d?\]: this is minuspoints?]
;B[ga]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: looks like it]
;W[gb]C[pancake [3d?\]: :)]
;B[ea]C[vor09 [3d?\]: nope + 2 in corner]
;W[oi]
;B[ph]
;W[ih]C[MrZNF [4d?\]: yeah, too bad, b needs two more moves instead of one now :(]
;B[jg]C[pancake [3d?\]: oh funny shape :p]
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