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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: Veedee vs Laza]
US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]
CoPyright[
  Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2011
  Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
  No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood.
  Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.
]
GN[Veedee-Laza(B) IGS]RE[B+8.5]
PW[Veedee]WR[6d+]NW[34]
PB[Laza]BR[4d+]NB[32]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2011-01-10]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
Laza 4d+: hi
Veedee 6d+: Let's begin and enjoy a great game.
Laza 4d+: Have a good game.
]
;B[pd]BL[3570]C[
Veedee 6d+: Nice game !
]
;W[dp]WL[3578]
;B[pp]BL[3566]
;W[dc]WL[3561]
;B[jp]BL[3502]C[
Kachnak 1d : /help
]
;W[qn]WL[3531]C[
LeT 1d+: go Vlada!
]
;B[pj]BL[3457]C[
Laman 13k?: interesting fuseki by black
Laman 13k?: what now, sansan?
]
;W[rp]WL[3425]
;B[pn]BL[3436]
;W[po]WL[3396]
;B[oo]BL[3305]
;W[qo]WL[3393]
;B[op]BL[3221]
;W[pm]WL[3388]
;B[on]BL[3220]
;W[om]WL[3387]
;B[nm]BL[3215]
;W[nl]WL[3384]
;B[ol]BL[3208]
;W[ql]WL[3349]
;B[ok]BL[3166]
;W[mm]WL[3330]
;B[nn]BL[3163]
;W[qq]WL[3313]
;B[jd]BL[3151]
;W[de]WL[3289]C[
Kachnak 1d : so, whos better? :)
]
;B[ck]BL[3060]C[
LeT 1d+: b for me
flashback 7d : w is fine
]
;W[cm]WL[3214]
;B[cg]BL[3055]C[
flashback 7d : h17
flashback 7d : or c15?
flashback 7d : difficult
flashback 7d : :)
]
;W[hd]WL[3140]
;B[if]BL[3006]
;W[eq]WL[3113]C[
LeT 1d+: this is going to be interesting
]
;B[eg]BL[2930]C[
SlowThinkr 2d : wasn't r3 too slow?
flashback 7d : no
Kachnak 1d : e3 seems abit off...
flashback 7d : locally huge, and sets bad aji for b
flashback 7d : e3 fine too
]
;W[hf]WL[2999]
;B[hg]BL[2919]
;W[ig]WL[2981]
;B[he]BL[2898]
;W[gf]WL[2977]
;B[jf]BL[2897]C[
LeT 1d+: w helping g to create moyo
flashback 7d : hm
LeT 1d+: b of course :-)
]
;W[hh]WL[2932]
;B[gg]BL[2895]
;W[ge]WL[2918]
;B[gh]BL[2891]C[
flashback 7d : well, this wasnt great :)
flashback 7d : L10 !
LeT 1d+: L10 :-)
guta57 3d?: white is playing into black hands
flashback 7d : but Vlada is good in such a positions
]
;W[ml]WL[2868]
;B[jm]BL[2792]
;W[lo]WL[2840]
;B[lp]BL[2776]
;W[mp]WL[2828]
;B[mq]BL[2724]
;W[kp]WL[2683]
;B[lq]BL[2721]
;W[jo]WL[2656]
;B[kq]BL[2700]
;W[ip]WL[2651]
;B[ko]BL[2678]
;W[kn]WL[2650]
;B[io]BL[2604]C[
Kachnak 1d : b has no ko threats that w would answer...
]
;W[kp]WL[2646]
;B[jq]BL[2603]
;W[in]WL[2643]
;B[ho]BL[2602]
;W[jn]WL[2641]
;B[hn]BL[2597]
;W[hm]WL[2626]
;B[gm]BL[2584]
;W[gl]WL[2595]
;B[hp]BL[2545]
;W[hl]WL[2566]C[
LeT 1d+: e3 perfect
]
;B[cq]BL[2479]
;W[cp]WL[2556]C[
Laman 13k?: looks ok
]
;B[mj]BL[2393]C[
flashback 7d : o17
flashback 7d : or sansan
LeT 1d+: better than r14?
]
;W[oi]WL[2463]C[
flashback 7d : hard to say
flashback 7d : may be not
]
;B[pi]BL[2353]C[
flashback 7d : actually r14 may be better :)
]
;W[og]WL[2433]C[
flashback 7d : after second look
flashback 7d : but Vlada has his style
]
;B[qg]BL[2331]C[
flashback 7d : r14?
]
;W[qf]WL[2405]C[
flashback 7d : :)
Kachnak 1d : woo....
flashback 7d : but q13 and cut
Laman 13k?: this would never work for me :)
flashback 7d : then p15 o14 q15 r16
]
;B[jk]BL[2129]C[
flashback 7d : i  would connect at J7 instead of h8
LeT 1d+: k8
flashback 7d : thought better
flashback 7d : k8 doesnt help at all
flashback 7d : J7 L8
]
;W[lj]WL[2329]C[
flashback 7d : hehe
LeT 1d+: w looking for challenges
Kachnak 1d : maybe just too hard...
flashback 7d : not really
flashback 7d : getting better
]
;B[lk]BL[2063]C[
flashback 7d : g15 was weird action, but since that w plays good
flashback 7d : i think
flashback 7d : o10?
Kachnak 1d : looks shapish...
Juka 3d+: white have problems not play
flashback 7d : but not that easy
flashback 7d : n11?
]
;W[kl]WL[1973]C[
FreddaSWE 5d?: b have chance now
]
;B[kk]BL[1996]C[
LeT 1d+: your move?
]
;W[nj]WL[1919]
;B[nk]BL[1992]
;W[mk]WL[1917]
;B[mi]BL[1991]
;W[oh]WL[1899]C[
flashback 7d : good
flashback 7d : for w
flashback 7d : :)
FreddaSWE 5d?: l8 was disaster move but now complicated
LeT 1d+: wonder if b will cut
LeT 1d+: q14 or so
]
;B[jl]BL[1816]C[
LeT 1d+: p10
]
;W[im]WL[1821]C[
XFC2008 2d : B s14,
XFC2008 2d : cannot do much, make alive fist
XFC2008 2d : p9 group cannot affort to give up
XFC2008 2d : or simple q8,P10 and R9 alive quietly
XFC2008 2d : leave thefight on F7 or top later
]
;B[oj]BL[1460]
;W[ni]WL[1787]
;B[pg]BL[1457]C[
Juka 3d+: now, black win?
]
;W[pf]WL[1741]
;B[of]BL[1455]C[
flashback 7d : now the game starts :)
Juka 3d+: or finish?
LeT 1d+: :-)
LeT 1d+: or both
LeT 1d+: at the same time
LeT 1d+: n13?
Kachnak 1d : s13?
]
;W[mh]WL[1391]
;B[li]BL[1449]
;W[kh]WL[1390]
;B[lh]BL[1448]
;W[lg]WL[1388]
;B[ki]BL[1448]
;W[ji]WL[1387]
;B[kj]BL[1447]C[
flashback 7d : k13? :))
XFC2008 2d : B has L7 alive, quite confortable
LeT 1d+: right
XFC2008 2d : enough time to take careof top
]
;W[kg]WL[1267]
;B[nf]BL[1424]
;W[mg]WL[1251]
;B[rf]BL[1293]C[
flashback 7d : h10
]
;W[ld]WL[1174]C[
flashback 7d : ok
flashback 7d : w has some aji at, q12 r12 r11 s11 s12
]
;B[hj]BL[1194]C[
flashback 7d : dangerous
FreddaSWE 5d?: that seems far-fetched simara =P
FreddaSWE 5d?: w is dangerous now
FreddaSWE 5d?: in trouble*
FreddaSWE 5d?: :P
Juka 3d+: And? Black t14 on end sekvence
flashback 7d : whats far fetched?
FreddaSWE 5d?: the aji
LeT 1d+: I replayed flashbacks sequence looks working
FreddaSWE 5d?: its nice indeed, but i think it will disappear in top fight
flashback 7d : not that easy b continues by r10 s13 r11 s15 r15 and so on
flashback 7d : so w can finally live in the corner
FreddaSWE 5d?: yes
flashback 7d : but cannot capture right stones
]
;W[ih]WL[983]C[
flashback 7d : thats why i suggest just h10 first of all
flashback 7d : anyway this seems good too
flashback 7d : if b extends
flashback 7d : f7
flashback 7d : j10 cut is in sente
flashback 7d : so w can capture h10
nidza92 5d?: j10 cut isnt sente
nidza92 5d?: b h11
XFC2008 2d : B play F8 time?
flashback 7d : ah
flashback 7d : little more complicate then
flashback 7d : g10 first then?
FreddaSWE 5d?: then g11
nidza92 5d?: i think its very hard for w
flashback 7d : f8 once
flashback 7d : and then j9
]
;B[dm]BL[946]
;W[gj]WL[941]C[
flashback 7d : lets see
]
;B[gi]BL[904]
;W[hi]WL[922]
;B[hk]BL[886]
;W[fj]WL[880]C[
Jonka 14k?: ko?
]
;B[km]BL[868]C[
Jonka 14k?: ah
]
;W[mn]WL[839]
;B[ll]BL[854]C[
LeT 1d+: w winning
XFC2008 2d : D7 not good at all
]
;W[fm]WL[801]
;B[le]BL[843]C[
XFC2008 2d : wasted almost a move
FreddaSWE 5d?: not really wasted
FreddaSWE 5d?: w played f7 after all
FreddaSWE 5d?: if d7 was at f7, there was anyway no way to kill this w group
SlowThinkr 2d : f7-d7 sounds good for W
]
;W[me]WL[690]
;B[el]BL[810]
;W[eh]WL[637]
;B[ff]BL[800]C[
XFC2008 2d : b very hard to deal with w q12, it seeems
XFC2008 2d : s14 really did nto do the job right
XFC2008 2d : gredually 6d strength killd 4d
]
;W[fe]WL[481]
;B[dh]BL[787]C[
XFC2008 2d : oh, if w q12, r12, b can r10 an s12
]
;W[dn]WL[384]C[
nidza92 5d?: N16
]
;B[mf]BL[771]C[
nidza92 5d?: or this
FreddaSWE 5d?: 8)
]
;W[ke]WL[372]
;B[lf]BL[768]
;W[kf]WL[364]C[
XFC2008 2d : l16 very juicy
]
;B[en]BL[674]
;W[em]WL[348]
;B[dl]BL[673]
;W[gn]WL[276]
;B[kd]BL[665]
;W[lc]WL[239]
;B[kb]BL[654]C[
XFC2008 2d : ???/, why not K15 kill?
]
;W[oe]WL[191]
;B[pe]BL[650]
;W[ng]WL[185]
;B[qe]BL[646]
;W[lb]WL[164]
;B[ib]BL[626]
;W[hb]WL[140]C[
LeT 1d+: o17?
]
;B[nc]BL[543]
;W[je]WL[78]C[
XFC2008 2d : o17 should play afterK15?
]
;B[mb]BL[476]
;W[la]WL[50]C[
XFC2008 2d : at lease extend liberty
]
;B[mc]BL[421]C[
XFC2008 2d : w L19, b dead!
MacArthur 3k?: no byoyomi time?
]
;W[id]WL[396]C[
LeT 1d+: u see it
Laman 13k?: byoyomi 25 moves in 10 minutes
XFC2008 2d : B not play K15 is fatal!
]
;B[jc]BL[363]C[
weaker 3k?: b wants ko?
]
;W[ja]WL[372]
;B[gk]BL[226]
;W[cn]WL[316]
;B[md]BL[172]
;W[ka]WL[288]
;B[er]BL[139]
;W[dr]WL[226]
;B[fq]BL[115]
;W[fp]WL[205]
;B[dq]BL[111]
;W[ep]WL[196]
;B[cr]BL[108]
;W[cf]WL[168]
;B[df]BL[43]
;W[ee]WL[146]
;B[dg]BL[15]
;W[or]WL[139]
;B[nr]BL[599]
;W[oq]WL[134]
;B[nq]BL[588]
;W[fr]WL[127]
;B[ds]BL[586]
;W[bf]WL[122]
;B[gq]BL[495]
;W[rj]WL[119]
;B[ri]BL[475]
;W[bh]WL[112]
;B[bg]BL[461]
;W[bj]WL[104]
;B[bk]BL[377]
;W[ag]WL[96]
;B[ce]BL[376]
;W[be]WL[90]
;B[cd]BL[371]
;W[bd]WL[89]
;B[af]BL[370]
;W[ae]WL[78]
;B[rk]BL[351]
;W[qk]WL[62]
;B[qj]BL[339]
;W[bq]WL[55]
;B[br]BL[332]
;W[mo]WL[53]
;B[pq]BL[283]
;W[pr]WL[51]
;B[os]BL[270]
;W[qr]WL[43]
;B[np]BL[266]C[
XFC2008 2d : will w D11 couse trouble?
]
;W[fi]WL[543]
;B[fg]BL[212]
;W[dj]WL[519]
;B[cj]BL[198]
;W[ci]WL[510]
;B[di]BL[190]
;W[ej]WL[442]
;B[ch]BL[145]C[
FreddaSWE 5d?: seems b won
nidza92 5d?: 2 step ko for w
nidza92 5d?: but he can never win
FreddaSWE 5d?: b14 losing move
FreddaSWE 5d?: g3 was too big
]
;W[cl]WL[289]
;B[dk]BL[137]C[
nidza92 5d?: w didnt see F3
]
;W[gp]WL[280]
;B[hq]BL[131]
;W[bl]WL[277]
;B[bi]BL[123]
;W[rl]WL[263]
;B[sj]BL[118]C[
Bojanic 5d?: nidzo, ko vodi?
Bojanic 5d?: sad sam doso sa slave...
]
;W[fl]WL[199]C[
nidza92 5d?: pa laza valjda
Bojanic 5d?: cinilo mi se da je gusto
]
;B[go]BL[103]C[
Bojanic 5d?: a sad je jos zabrljao danek
nidza92 5d?: da
]
;W[fo]WL[163]
;B[fk]BL[597]C[
nidza92 5d?: laza pobedjuje sigurno
]
;W[bp]WL[157]C[
Bojanic 5d?: cini mi se da ima nesto na j17
]
;B[ma]BL[587]C[
Juka 3d+: kazi ocu da pod hitno ostavi go i predje na domine
]
;W[ia]WL[150]C[
nidza92 5d?: :)
Bojanic 5d?: Jel guta rekao da laza gubi?
Bojanic 5d?: uvek omane...
Juka 3d+: sa 59 rqazlike
]
;B[qp]BL[551]C[
nidza92 5d?: reko:) odavno
Juka 3d+: jos juce?
]
;W[rn]WL[136]C[
nidza92 5d?: promenila se situacija
]
;B[pl]BL[547]
;W[qm]WL[123]
;B[aq]BL[539]
;W[ap]WL[120]
;B[ar]BL[538]C[
Juka 3d+: ma nemoj, Laza je sve igrao tesuji do tesujia a onda je ceh pogresio?
]
;W[ps]WL[99]
;B[ns]BL[535]
;W[sl]WL[97]C[
nidza92 5d?: pa laza je gubio mnogo
guta57 3d?: koji bese Juko rezultat u onoj nasoj zadnjoj partiji?
]
;B[sk]BL[512]C[
nidza92 5d?: pa ga je razbio u borbi
]
;W[ij]WL[90]
;B[ik]BL[510]
;W[jj]WL[89]
;B[al]BL[496]
;W[am]WL[86]
;B[ak]BL[494]C[
Juka 3d+: Nemoj da pricas. Laza je mogao da stiska centar i napravi po stranicama. Beli je imao 2 slabe coske i jednu dobru.
]
;W[bc]WL[70]
;B[ah]BL[492]
;W[ph]WL[64]
;B[qh]BL[491]C[
Bojanic 5d?: jedno pitanjce...
nidza92 5d?: kad je beli ziveo u centru crni je mogao da preda
Bojanic 5d?: umesto n19, je li mogao da crni igra na j17, pa da gura po 17oj liniji
]
;W[lm]WL[36]
;B[ko]BL[478]
;W[es]WL[32]C[
Juka 3d+: Sto mi milo, onaj ceh 7d je stalno pricao "beli bolji" a ja "black go to win"
]
;B[fs]BL[467]C[
nidza92 5d?: pa beli se samo spoji sa d17?
]
;W[kp]WL[29]C[
nidza92 5d?: :)
]
;B[bm]BL[463]
;W[bn]WL[598]
;B[ko]BL[462]
;W[si]WL[582]
;B[sh]BL[460]
;W[kp]WL[579]C[
Bojanic 5d?: mozda je crni mogao na pola toga da igra na c17 il sl
]
;B[an]BL[456]C[
Juka 3d+: Znao sam da ceh mora nekad da se sabere i odigra kako ume
nidza92 5d?: ja mislim da o17 ne valja, o18 je bolji
]
;W[ao]WL[563]
;B[ko]BL[455]
;W[pf]WL[557]
;B[ne]BL[452]
;W[kp]WL[554]
;B[rq]BL[438]
;W[rr]WL[552]
;B[ko]BL[428]
;W[af]WL[535]
;B[kp]BL[426]
;W[ln]WL[528]
;B[tt]BL[415]
;W[tt]WL[528]
;B[tt]BL[600]C[
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ S3
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ C16
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ F2
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ J18
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ J4
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ K17
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ Q14
Keks 5d?: bravo za lazu
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ P15
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ L18
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ F11
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ H15
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ E12
Laza 4d+: Laza dead @ B10
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ J14
Veedee 6d+: Veedee dead @ E6
Laza done
LeT 1d+: vysledek by mel byt o jedenact spatne ve prospech cerneho
];

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