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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: csaba vs artem9212]
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CoPyright[
 Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2012
 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
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 Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.
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GN[csaba-artem9212(B) IGS]RE[B+Resign]
PW[csaba]WR[6d?]NW[34]
PB[artem9212]BR[6d?]NB[34]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2012-02-15]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
 artem9212 6d?: have a nice game
 csaba 6d?: have a good game!
]
;B[qd]BL[3574]
;W[dd]WL[3596]
;B[pp]BL[3539]
;W[dp]WL[3569]
;B[oc]BL[3513]
;W[fq]WL[3485]
;B[qj]BL[3442]
;W[kp]WL[3448]
;B[cj]BL[3414]
;W[cl]WL[3442]
;B[cg]BL[3374]
;W[gc]WL[3435]
;B[bd]BL[3347]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: huh
 Uberdude 2d?: why w not c15
 Uberdude 2d?: i've heard c13 not so great as w c15 cramps it
 Uberdude 2d?: c14 usual now
]
;W[nq]WL[3356]
;B[pn]BL[3324]
;W[jc]WL[3341]
;B[dc]BL[3176]
;W[ec]WL[3327]
;B[cc]BL[3170]
;W[co]WL[3216]
;B[jn]BL[3002]
;W[mm]WL[3128]
;B[jp]BL[2982]
;W[jq]WL[3111]
;B[kq]BL[2968]
;W[lp]WL[3051]
;B[iq]BL[2959]
;W[jr]WL[3050]
;B[ip]BL[2956]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: hmm
 Uberdude 2d?: seems black fixes w shape weakness ot n7
]
;W[ir]WL[2995]
;B[hr]BL[2903]
;W[gr]WL[2922]
;B[gq]BL[2846]
;W[hs]WL[2907]
;B[hq]BL[2844]
;W[er]WL[2895]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: alternatively, k6 isn't too weak anymore
 Uberdude 2d?: it is
 Uberdude 2d?: rather heavy
 pogacsa 8d : Uberdude know everything about go
 pogacsa 8d : will tell everyone about it for free
]
;B[or]BL[2780]C[
 pogacsa 8d : without asking
]
;W[nr]WL[2884]
;B[fp]BL[2685]
;W[ep]WL[2877]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: please correct me if i am wrong =)
 BonnerJung 1k?: k6 looks quite stable, doesnt fell heavy to me
]
;B[nn]BL[2673]
;W[km]WL[2805]
;B[il]BL[2649]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: yeah, looks ok now
]
;W[mc]WL[2730]
;B[ed]BL[2626]
;W[fd]WL[2633]
;B[ee]BL[2618]
;W[eb]WL[2632]
;B[ff]BL[2604]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: why is e18 big enough, instead of the right side?
 BonnerJung 1k?: N17 was  a huge point. I never find proper timing
 Uberdude 2d?: if b atari there and you ocnnect really painful
 Uberdude 2d?: and if not connect then d16 aji gone
 Moyoclinic 1k?: if i just tenuki again?
 Moyoclinic 1k?: ok
]
;W[gl]WL[2560]
;B[jk]BL[2589]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: maybe d14 was the move if b doesn't f14
 BonnerJung 1k?: additionolly as b I would not move on the right side. so w has time for that invasion?
]
;W[pi]WL[2444]
;B[pj]BL[2581]
;W[ni]WL[2442]
;B[oi]BL[2570]
;W[oh]WL[2439]
;B[oj]BL[2568]C[
 BonnerJung 1k?: f5 seems like a big point
]
;W[nh]WL[2391]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: yeah, w reduces instead of invade prseujmable to attack k9
 BonnerJung 1k?: r13 connects?
]
;B[jd]BL[2524]
;W[kd]WL[2363]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: yeah
 Uberdude 2d?: but seems b wants to do more
]
;B[ic]BL[2509]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: at cost - b wants to keep top middle from getting too large as a result
 Uberdude 2d?: and possibly separate o12
]
;W[id]WL[2318]
;B[je]BL[2502]
;W[ib]WL[2295]
;B[kc]BL[2494]
;W[hc]WL[2294]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: odd w chose left top
]
;B[jb]BL[2461]
;W[ic]WL[2285]
;B[ld]BL[2460]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: what you prefer?
]
;W[pc]WL[2243]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: l17 connects give b a sente ponnuki which is nice
 Uberdude 2d?: j15 push other choice
]
;B[pd]BL[2441]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: or l15
 Moyoclinic 1k?: how about not hane l16?
 Uberdude 2d?: then you feel kikashid i guess
]
;W[qc]WL[2168]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: instead of j18
 BonnerJung 1k?: they are playing quite fast
]
;B[ob]BL[2415]
;W[rd]WL[2167]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: L15 L17 K18 K14 J18 L14 N15 is kinda middle game jsoeki
]
;B[re]BL[2408]
;W[rb]WL[2166]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: original j16 response instead of l16 perhaps smoother.  Worry is that it leaves o12 vulnerable, but not as vulnerable as they are now!
]
;B[sd]BL[2345]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: l15 looks good to me
 Uberdude 2d?: any other choice for b?
 Boothbol 1k+: now?
]
;W[sc]WL[2076]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: it gives b some sente thickness, but w gets a stone at o15
 Uberdude 2d?: i mean instead of j18
]
;B[rc]BL[2336]
;W[ke]WL[2074]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: so b can cut o12
 Moyoclinic 1k?: oh. i like your joseki more.
 Uberdude 2d?: but takes a move so w can n9 or whatever
 Uberdude 2d?: and w keeps all top side territory and conencted
]
;B[lc]BL[2304]
;W[rd]WL[2070]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: anyway, with k14 and l14 i think k9 is also too save for w's taste probably
 Boothbol 1k+: perhaps better to get slight sente reduction than dangerous ko for everything
 Boothbol 1k+: sente = come back to n9 and pressure 012
 Moyoclinic 1k?: j1
 Uberdude 2d?: but w finshed with a stone at n15
 Uberdude 2d?: so if n9 w can simply connect at o14
]
;B[is]BL[2217]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: of course maybe something better than just connect on dame
]
;W[gs]WL[2058]
;B[rc]BL[2211]
;W[le]WL[2056]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: ah, I was thinking of a lighter move than j17 for b after the connection, reducing in sente then coming back to n9
 Boothbol 1k+: sorry, after the "tsuke" of k16
]
;B[sb]BL[2179]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: b perhaps satisfied with this anyway
]
;W[me]WL[2032]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: though top middle a problem
]
;B[md]BL[2150]
;W[nd]WL[2023]
;B[mb]BL[2143]
;W[ij]WL[2021]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: tally ho!
 Uberdude 2d?: w thinks k6 not so stable either ;-)
 Moyoclinic 1k?: times have changed a bit :)
 Uberdude 2d?: well, this weak group
 Uberdude 2d?: has been w's aim for ages
 Uberdude 2d?: like the o12
 Uberdude 2d?: b just f5?
 Uberdude 2d?: or wun somewhere?
 Boothbol 1k+: b response here determines rest
 Moyoclinic 1k?: why not h9? is it a trap?
]
;B[jj]BL[2005]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: f5 not life
 Uberdude 2d?: h9 bad shape
 Boothbol 1k+: k10 reduce top white and get close to q10
 Uberdude 2d?: this and then n9
]
;W[ji]WL[1991]
;B[ii]BL[1993]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: group not so weak tohugh i feel
 Uberdude 2d?: w is kinda thin
 Boothbol 1k+: just chance for w to solidify top
 Boothbol 1k+: then invade right bottom
 Uberdude 2d?: but f14 reallt nice
 Uberdude 2d?: poking out
 Moyoclinic 1k?: so, if w get sente, r3?
]
;W[ki]WL[1906]
;B[hj]BL[1981]
;W[ih]WL[1903]
;B[hi]BL[1979]
;W[hh]WL[1902]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: r4 might do something
]
;B[np]BL[1933]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: but r10 super strong
 Uberdude 2d?: so mybe b go for kill
 Moyoclinic 1k?: seems h12 a tick too slow
]
;W[oq]WL[1881]
;B[pq]BL[1926]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: no more invasion
 Uberdude 2d?: o14 nice
 Uberdude 2d?: induced w into desotrying invasion
 Uberdude 2d?: time to count i guess
]
;W[pr]WL[1832]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: i expect b leads
]
;B[qr]BL[1919]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: o8 fate critical
]
;W[os]WL[1832]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: er, g8
]
;B[mp]BL[1910]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: looks like dame to me
 Moyoclinic 1k?: seems kinda close, almost 70 each
 BonnerJung 1k?: to me like sente ^^
 Uberdude 2d?: i mean g8 dame
]
;W[mq]WL[1762]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: if w can reduce d11, etc., b group still under pressure -- but if b e8, possible capture or rupture of c8 area
]
;B[lo]BL[1877]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: o4 solved pressure problem and invasion problem
]
;W[ko]WL[1731]
;B[kn]BL[1873]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: and sente cut!
]
;W[lq]WL[1721]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: guess not so close then
 Uberdude 2d?: game over
]
;B[mn]BL[1831]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: note sente
 Boothbol 1k+: er, not sente
 Uberdude 2d?: cut was sente
 Boothbol 1k+: but connected and invasion prevented.  w has to use sente welll
 Uberdude 2d?: b then use his sente to fix his cut :p
 Moyoclinic 1k?: n6 because b is artem
 Boothbol 1k+: meant n4 not sente
 Boothbol 1k+: er, 04
]
;W[nj]WL[1633]
;B[hf]BL[1825]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: r13 could be big now
 Uberdude 2d?: but s15 made it smaller
 Boothbol 1k+: like b here
 Moyoclinic 1k?: w has like no potential to make something happen
 Uberdude 2d?: yeah b very solid
 Boothbol 1k+: b no weak groups
 Moyoclinic 1k?: s2 and try something crazy
 Uberdude 2d?: about only thing i can imagine
 Uberdude 2d?: is if w gets r12 area
 Uberdude 2d?: and then q8
 Uberdude 2d?: might give b opportunity ti make mistake
]
;W[gg]WL[1474]
;B[gf]BL[1818]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: h14 mean
 Uberdude 2d?: if black saves k15
 Uberdude 2d?: w centre group gets its eyes poked at
 Uberdude 2d?: for b yose gain
]
;W[ie]WL[1420]
;B[ne]BL[1798]
;W[nf]WL[1413]
;B[oe]BL[1792]
;W[bi]WL[1390]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: ah cool. something drastic
]
;B[bj]BL[1771]
;W[ci]WL[1388]
;B[dj]BL[1753]
;W[di]WL[1387]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: uunlikely to be sente for w
]
;B[ei]BL[1748]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: even if he survives
]
;W[ej]WL[1372]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: maybe w aims for k5 or something
 Boothbol 1k+: hm, just d12 works, no/
 Boothbol 1k+: er easier f11
]
;B[fi]BL[1627]
;W[fj]WL[1352]
;B[dk]BL[1584]C[
 WongKarWai 2k+: Is this game part of a tournament or something?
 Moyoclinic 1k?: yes, http://www.pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/schedule/2
]
;W[eh]WL[1140]C[
 WongKarWai 2k+: Moyoclinic. Thank you. I really appreciate
 Boothbol 1k+: w could be aiming at f14 stones
 Moyoclinic 1k?: no problem
]
;B[gh]BL[1520]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: but now b got n6 connect
 Uberdude 2d?: this much less danger for b
 Boothbol 1k+: g12 pretty response
 Uberdude 2d?: please resign move
 Moyoclinic 1k?: yes. almost end of the line
]
;W[fh]WL[1095]
;B[gi]BL[1514]
;W[hk]WL[1094]
;B[ik]BL[1506]
;W[gj]WL[1093]
;B[ij]BL[1502]
;W[dg]WL[1089]
;B[df]BL[1497]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: black wins semeai i tihnk
 Uberdude 2d?: w got d12 bad liberties
]
;W[el]WL[963]
;B[dl]BL[1480]
;W[dm]WL[961]
;B[cm]BL[1477]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: d12 instead would have created interesting choice for b
 Boothbol 1k+: w d12
]
;W[em]WL[915]
;B[bl]BL[1468]
;W[bm]WL[914]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: huh,
]
;B[ck]BL[1463]
;W[cn]WL[913]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: why w not d8
 Uberdude 2d?: instead of e8
]
;B[bh]BL[1410]C[
 markus 5k?: because then black e8 cuts?
]
;W[ai]WL[887]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: ah yes =)
]
;B[cl]BL[1327]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: a9 gets a ko?
]
;W[an]WL[514]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: guess not
 Moyoclinic 1k?: but then might as well res
]
;B[aj]BL[1294]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: nice he got it so complicated though
 Boothbol 1k+: one liberty
]
;W[jo]WL[413]
;B[in]BL[1277]
;W[io]WL[410]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: oh
 Uberdude 2d?: ah. good thing w didn't exchange m7 for m6
]
;B[gn]BL[1270]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: I still think d12 instead of d13 creates a dilemna for b -- expand liberties of b10 vs. worry about f14
]
;W[hn]WL[370]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: f14 looks fine
]
;B[hm]BL[1262]
;W[ho]WL[369]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: b would d8 or whater
]
;B[gm]BL[1259]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: no chance for w now. even if r13 area is 0 points
]
;W[qh]WL[306]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: then w d14 gets interesting
 Boothbol 1k+: but not to be
 Boothbol 1k+: anyone count?
 Moyoclinic 1k?: yes
 Moyoclinic 1k?: b above 80, and w less
 Moyoclinic 1k?: really conservative
]
;B[nk]BL[1184]
;W[mk]WL[303]
;B[nl]BL[1179]C[
 Uberdude 2d?: hmm yes d14 not as easy to deal with as i thought
 Wloczykij 4d?: e6 good yose
]
;W[op]WL[285]
;B[po]BL[1165]
;W[ri]WL[276]
;B[qi]BL[1158]
;W[rg]WL[274]
;B[rj]BL[1150]
;W[sj]WL[273]
;B[sk]BL[1144]
;W[si]WL[267]C[
 Moyoclinic 1k?: now k14 can be rescued? :)
]
;B[rk]BL[1142]
;W[qs]WL[252]
;B[rr]BL[1132]
;W[db]WL[251]
;B[lj]BL[1116]C[
 Boothbol 1k+: i was curious to see how b would have handled w d14 in that scenario.  d13 push possible disaster.
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