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GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: manocska vs vaneeden]
US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]
CoPyright[
 Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2011
 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given.
 No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood.
 Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.
]
GN[manocska-vaneeden(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign]
PW[manocska]WR[8d ]NW[36]
PB[vaneeden]BR[5d+]NB[33]
PC[IGS:  igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2011-10-12]
SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[]
RR[Normal]
C[
 vaneeden 5d+: hello
 manocska 8d : hi,almost ok...but komi is wrong :(
 vaneeden 5d+: of course :)
 manocska 8d : perfect, have a nice game
 vaneeden 5d+: enjoy
]
;B[qd]BL[3534]
;W[dp]WL[3596]
;B[pq]BL[3528]
;W[dc]WL[3582]
;B[oc]BL[3518]
;W[po]WL[3544]
;B[pl]BL[3499]
;W[qj]WL[3538]
;B[qm]BL[3491]C[
 Laman 13k?: Mano, for the win!
 Murugandi BC : hell no, Vaneeden!
]
;W[qg]WL[3483]C[
 Murugandi BC : haha
]
;B[np]BL[3488]C[
 pancake 3d?: Go Vaneeden :D
 Murugandi BC : GO DUTCH PRIDE hahahahaha
 Murugandi BC : ik ga stuk
 Laman 13k?: haha, no way :)
 pancake 3d?: Laman looking for trouble there
]
;W[fq]WL[3439]C[
 pancake 3d?: it's 2 vs 1, what do you wanna do?
 Laman 13k?: you are also playing, Murugandi?
]
;B[de]BL[3466]C[
 Sur 11k+: go mano :-) 2v2
 pancake 3d?: muru's supposed to be playing
 pancake 3d?: but his opponent went offline
 Murugandi BC : yes im playing
 Murugandi BC : soon
 Murugandi BC : hopefully
 Laman 13k?: pancake, know you from L19 :)
 pancake 3d?: ah, you do? what's your nickname there?
 Laman 13k?: eh, Laman
 pancake 3d?: lol
]
;W[dh]WL[3307]C[
 pancake 3d?: don't really remember that nick o:-)
 Laman 13k?: well, i am not that much active...
 pancake 3d?: i see
]
;B[gd]BL[3392]
;W[ee]WL[3300]
;B[ef]BL[3383]
;W[fe]WL[3297]C[
 pancake 3d?: how come all strong dutch players suck on the internet?
 pancake 3d?: Gilles is supposed to be strong 6dan, and only 5d here
]
;B[cc]BL[3323]
;W[fc]WL[3202]
;B[db]BL[3318]
;W[cd]WL[3196]
;B[dd]BL[3315]
;W[ec]WL[3196]
;B[cb]BL[3313]
;W[ff]WL[3187]
;B[ce]BL[3205]
;W[eg]WL[3142]
;B[lc]BL[3140]
;W[co]WL[3132]
;B[jq]BL[3106]
;W[qq]WL[3125]C[
 herminator 4d?: because all the strong dutch players are old
 herminator 4d?: when are you getting to 6d?
 pancake 3d?: dunno, hard to find time to study :3
 pancake 3d?: would be easier with a studymate
]
;B[qr]BL[2985]
;W[pr]WL[3071]C[
 herminator 4d?: zeno...
 pancake 3d?: he lives in bilthoven..
 herminator 4d?: close enough
]
;B[or]BL[2925]
;W[pp]WL[3041]
;B[ps]BL[2884]
;W[oq]WL[3023]
;B[pr]BL[2811]C[
 pancake 3d?: I don't feel like going there..
]
;W[no]WL[2999]C[
 herminator 4d?: so make him come to you...
]
;B[mp]BL[2798]
;W[mo]WL[2959]
;B[lo]BL[2765]
;W[op]WL[2942]
;B[nr]BL[2737]C[
 pancake 3d?: haha
]
;W[ln]WL[2859]
;B[kn]BL[2735]C[
 pancake 3d?: he probably doesn't want to come here either
 pancake 3d?: they smoke inside..
 herminator 4d?: zeno?
]
;W[ko]WL[2846]C[
 herminator 4d?: not wanting to study go?
]
;B[lp]BL[2733]C[
 pancake 3d?: We should find a few active players and do the same as we did in Groningen at Arnoud's place
 pancake 3d?: that was great
]
;W[mm]WL[2802]C[
 herminator 4d?: yes
]
;B[on]BL[2650]
;W[oo]WL[2753]
;B[pj]BL[2638]
;W[pi]WL[2750]
;B[oj]BL[2637]
;W[qk]WL[2725]
;B[km]BL[2632]
;W[nl]WL[2656]
;B[ol]BL[2622]
;W[mj]WL[2571]
;B[mk]BL[2267]
;W[nk]WL[2484]
;B[nj]BL[2248]
;W[lk]WL[2456]
;B[mi]BL[2246]
;W[lj]WL[2425]
;B[ph]BL[2194]
;W[qh]WL[2359]
;B[oi]BL[2152]
;W[jo]WL[2349]
;B[qi]BL[2150]
;W[ri]WL[2348]
;B[li]BL[2129]
;W[jj]WL[2297]
;B[ki]BL[2115]
;W[jk]WL[2257]
;B[gp]BL[2108]
;W[kq]WL[2224]
;B[kr]BL[2063]
;W[ho]WL[1873]
;B[go]BL[2013]
;W[kp]WL[1851]
;B[lr]BL[2009]
;W[iq]WL[1847]
;B[gq]BL[2007]
;W[jr]WL[1826]
;B[eq]BL[2004]
;W[ep]WL[1773]
;B[fp]BL[1972]
;W[er]WL[1747]
;B[fr]BL[1968]
;W[dr]WL[1745]
;B[hn]BL[1966]
;W[in]WL[1738]
;B[hm]BL[1902]
;W[im]WL[1718]
;B[em]BL[1831]
;W[cm]WL[1677]C[
 LeT 2d : b feels better i guess
 herminator 4d?: B has lots of territory
 Trump 1d : Also b seems more solid.
 Laman 13k?: i usually feel Mano is losing
 herminator 4d?: B needs to settle his lower left group with as little loss as possible, then it looks good to me
 Sur 11k+: well, he usually lose
 pancake 3d?: 'he usually lose', what's that supposed to mean?
]
;B[dk]BL[1589]
;W[pg]WL[1672]C[
 Laman 13k?: Sur: thats not true :)
]
;B[og]BL[1551]C[
 LeT 2d : Sur e
 Trump 1d : Sure
]
;W[qe]WL[1571]
;B[pe]BL[1523]C[
 pancake 3d?: did they ever played before?
 pancake 3d?: play*
 pancake 3d?: ah, perhaps once, at the selection tournament for the european team for the mind games
 pancake 3d?: selection of the european team*
]
;W[rd]WL[1519]
;B[re]BL[1492]C[
 herminator 4d?: they played at the kido cup
]
;W[qf]WL[1509]
;B[rc]BL[1491]
;W[pd]WL[1507]
;B[qc]BL[1490]C[
 herminator 4d?: silt won
]
;W[of]WL[1504]C[
 herminator 4d?: both scored 3/7 there
]
;B[nf]BL[1471]
;W[ne]WL[1495]
;B[mf]BL[1450]
;W[me]WL[1447]C[
 pancake 3d?: no, gilles had 1/7
]
;B[lf]BL[1421]C[
 pancake 3d?: ow, different tourney
 pancake 3d?: sorry
]
;W[le]WL[1409]
;B[od]BL[1378]
;W[oe]WL[1392]
;B[kf]BL[1376]
;W[ke]WL[1382]C[
 herminator 4d?: keeping ehite without two eyes here
]
;B[jf]BL[1357]C[
 LeT 2d : as w why not to cut the d9 stone?
 pancake 3d?: he has 2 eyes..
 pancake 3d?: cutting the d9 stone seems severe
 pancake 3d?: I don't understand d9 to begin with, it's always been cuttable
]
;W[mc]WL[1323]
;B[mb]BL[1331]
;W[lb]WL[1316]
;B[kb]BL[1208]
;W[nb]WL[1299]
;B[la]BL[1208]
;W[nc]WL[1298]
;B[ic]BL[1199]
;W[rf]WL[1292]
;B[sd]BL[1198]
;W[dl]WL[1235]C[
 herminator 4d?: well, there's the cut
 herminator 4d?: but what an ugly one
]
;B[el]BL[1087]
;W[ek]WL[1232]
;B[ck]BL[1087]C[
 pancake 3d?: haha true
 pancake 3d?: but this seems really hard for black
 pancake 3d?: it's not unlikely that something will die
]
;W[cl]WL[1026]C[
 pancake 3d?: haha delicious move ;p
 herminator 4d?: black can make an eye with J2, right?
]
;B[fk]BL[1052]C[
 herminator 4d?: or at least ko
]
;W[ej]WL[1021]
;B[bh]BL[1049]
;W[bi]WL[928]
;B[ci]BL[1040]
;W[bg]WL[914]
;B[bj]BL[1037]
;W[be]WL[901]
;B[bd]BL[1029]
;W[ch]WL[848]
;B[ai]BL[1026]
;W[dj]WL[845]C[
 vaneeden 5d+: you win
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