(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: Roln vs FreddaSWE] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2011 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[Roln-FreddaSWE(B) IGS]RE[B+1.5] PW[Roln]WR[6d?]NW[34] PB[FreddaSWE]BR[5d?]NB[33] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2011-11-09] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] C[ Roln 6d?: have a nice game ] ;B[pd]BL[3553] ;W[dp]WL[3587] ;B[pq]BL[3551] ;W[dd]WL[3578] ;B[qk]BL[3549] ;W[mq]WL[3575] ;B[np]BL[3546] ;W[mp]WL[3568] ;B[mo]BL[3545] ;W[nq]WL[3567] ;B[op]BL[3543] ;W[lo]WL[3566] ;B[mn]BL[3542] ;W[pr]WL[3563] ;B[qr]BL[3515] ;W[ln]WL[3531] ;B[mm]BL[3511] ;W[lm]WL[3530] ;B[ml]BL[3504] ;W[gq]WL[3529] ;B[kk]BL[3459] ;W[qf]WL[3516] ;B[qh]BL[3403] ;W[nd]WL[3448] ;B[pf]BL[3361] ;W[pg]WL[3445] ;B[of]BL[3343] ;W[qg]WL[3254] ;B[qe]BL[3341] ;W[qi]WL[3253] ;B[rh]BL[3329] ;W[qj]WL[3250] ;B[ph]BL[3205] ;W[og]WL[3247] ;B[nf]BL[3193] ;W[ng]WL[3225]C[ dexmorgan 6d : at last i got in dexmorgan 6d : this client sucks dexmorgan 6d : hung up like 20 times ] ;B[pk]BL[2847] ;W[mf]WL[3219] ;B[mg]BL[2842]C[ dexmorgan 6d : white looks bad dexmorgan 6d : cant imagine w making anything decent with 3 weak groups ] ;W[oi]WL[3192] ;B[pi]BL[2836] ;W[lf]WL[3075]C[ dexmorgan 6d : mm FreddaSWE 5d?: im sorry, the computer got turned off ] ;B[mh]BL[2796]C[ Roln 6d?: np ] ;W[qc]WL[3031] ;B[rd]BL[2626] ;W[pc]WL[3025] ;B[rf]BL[2622] ;W[gc]WL[2954] ;B[kh]BL[2472] ;W[dj]WL[2945] ;B[kp]BL[2441] ;W[lp]WL[2882]C[ malifaun 2k : whos better :D Barnyard 6k?: Black malifaun 2k : not so sure Barnyard 6k?: Left half has toe of invasions. Right third is wholly owned by black Barnyard 6k?: Tons not toe ] ;B[nc]BL[2192]C[ dexmorgan 6d : hey fosil 4d?: Que tal Uberdude 2d?: hmm, i saw a review by breakfast where he said q2 aji keshi dexmorgan 6d : q2 is fine dexmorgan 6d : standard dexmorgan 6d : because after the pushes black might p2 dexmorgan 6d : b had a great game, and i think s16 was a strange mistake by fredda Uberdude 2d?: it loses r3 option dexmorgan 6d : we had discussed this very week a joseki that shows that q17 is better dexmorgan 6d : unliekly R3 will come to happen after black L9 ] ;W[oc]WL[2535] ;B[mc]BL[2187]C[ gooooo 9k?: dex, whats your assessment of the situation? dexmorgan 6d : black is good ] ;W[kc]WL[2487]C[ dexmorgan 6d : blacks territory is mega solid, and white has 5 invasion points Uberdude 2d?: reminds me a bit of euro final vs catalin dexmorgan 6d : but this o17 move might start some complications which i think black didnt need at all gooooo 9k?: what invasion poitns btw :) dexmorgan 6d : c17/c3/c12/j4/c8 dexmorgan 6d : white needs like 5 moves for it to become territory dexmorgan 6d : black l16 seems to be the shape dexmorgan 6d : but white can n16..so black is forced to n16 before that Uberdude 2d?: ilya is dangerous though gooooo 9k?: seems like freddas trip is paying of :D madmurdock 11k : huh roln only 6d? ] ;B[md]BL[2027]C[ dexmorgan 6d : this invasion is unnecesary i think Uberdude 2d?: its hard to control the game against him ] ;W[od]WL[2479]C[ dexmorgan 6d : i have a feeling black wants to crush ] ;B[kd]BL[2006]C[ dexmorgan 6d : whites position is not good Uberdude 2d?: madmurdock, he doesn't play ehre much, you set own rating ] ;W[pe]WL[2401] ;B[oe]BL[1998] ;W[ne]WL[2400] ;B[pe]BL[1997]C[ Uberdude 2d?: in igs client can be hard to get an even game with someone different rating, so many people just set rating to help get game madmurdock 11k : ic dexmorgan 6d : now k17 and n15 are miai ] ;W[jc]WL[2309]C[ dexmorgan 6d : i dont think there is much space for creativity dexmorgan 6d : yikes dexmorgan 6d : semeai already Sandmann 4d?: w can live dexmorgan 6d : how madmurdock 11k : if n16 dies and p13 dies, is it ok? Sandmann 4d?: S17 dexmorgan 6d : then l14 dexmorgan 6d : take the cutting stones dexmorgan 6d : enough ] ;B[me]BL[1858]C[ gooooo 9k?: like htis? Uberdude 2d?: yeah w has to save them first dexmorgan 6d : whites stronges resistance is to go out with m14 dexmorgan 6d : but w is too busy Sandmann 4d?: ^^ ] ;W[jf]WL[2248]C[ Uberdude 2d?: try to gain libs and then s17 ] ;B[rc]BL[1821] ;W[rb]WL[2244]C[ dexmorgan 6d : with k4 dexmorgan 6d : then one with liberties is black dexmorgan 6d : w has to die here Uberdude 2d?: oh sandmann, you are better? dexmorgan 6d : o18 seems to be the vital point Sandmann 4d?: nay Uberdude 2d?: good to see you dexmorgan 6d : if b wins libs with o18 he can play l15 and escape Sandmann 4d?: :) gooooo 9k?: go sweden :) dexmorgan 6d : b trying to be careful but no need i think dexmorgan 6d : because ] ;B[sb]BL[1593]C[ dexmorgan 6d : if white plays s13, black can 12 dexmorgan 6d : can p12 ] ;W[nb]WL[2227]C[ dexmorgan 6d : i liked p18 side much more ] ;B[mb]BL[1581] ;W[oa]WL[2216]C[ dexmorgan 6d : this hanetsugi has a huge effect on liberties dexmorgan 6d : b wins the semeai nevertheless dexmorgan 6d : b would like to go out somehow, because white requires 2 moves to live in the corner dexmorgan 6d : so going out could mean the corner dies naturally Sandmann 4d?: w ovrplayed dexmorgan 6d : many times ] ;B[ma]BL[1281]C[ malifaun 2k : 7th line territory for b .) Uberdude 2d?: ilya overplay?! Uberdude 2d?: never! ] ;W[qb]WL[2091]C[ dexmorgan 6d : why does black have to fight a semeai ] ;B[ke]BL[1218] ;W[kf]WL[2084] ;B[id]BL[1213]C[ Sandmann 4d?: his overplays do radiate an immense aura pel 5k?: that "aura" is called "moyo" ;-) dexmorgan 6d : this is really game finished, i dont know how w can turn this around ] ;W[jd]WL[1953] ;B[je]BL[1209] ;W[ie]WL[1953] ;B[if]BL[1208] ;W[he]WL[1952] ;B[jg]BL[1206]C[ dexmorgan 6d : w dead in the corner.. dexmorgan 6d : total resign position Uberdude 2d?: i heard fredda went to train in okrea Cornel 9d : heh, now it starts:) Uberdude 2d?: is this true? dexmorgan 6d : lol cornel dexmorgan 6d : yes, im in korea with him pel 5k?: its true dexmorgan 6d : im studying at the same school :) dexmorgan 6d : hey pel Uberdude 2d?: cool, at biba? Cornel 9d : did you play in kmpc ? dexmorgan 6d : (im gabriel) dexmorgan 6d : yeah dexmorgan 6d : like a baws Cornel 9d : aha cool Cornel 9d : :) pel 5k?: :) Cornel 9d : I was to tired of tourneys to join this year Cornel 9d : but next year maybe Cornel 9d : was Corlan fun ?;) dexmorgan 6d : we have bad-boy Corlan ] ;W[co]WL[1825]C[ Marvin42 1k+: Aaaah! dexmorgan 6d : yes, white makes 20 points cash to balance out the position Marvin42 1k+: now B B16? dexmorgan 6d : i wonder if black should h14 or just c16 dexmorgan 6d : its not nice for white to play at c15 after black h14, becuase the g15 atari is painful dexmorgan 6d : black doesn treally need to invade, as he has the points dexmorgan 6d : so thick and reduce light and gamve over Marvin42 1k+: but "thick" means ... that he may take upper left corner ... with no regrets ... cant he? ] ;B[cd]BL[1014] ;W[cc]WL[1818] ;B[ce]BL[982] ;W[bc]WL[1812] ;B[ch]BL[967] ;W[bi]WL[1809]C[ dexmorgan 6d : the only blunder result that could happen here is that white somehow manages to cut at j13 dexmorgan 6d : if that happens then the game becomes messy ] ;B[de]BL[926] ;W[ed]WL[1806] ;B[ci]BL[846] ;W[cj]WL[1804] ;B[bh]BL[845] ;W[bj]WL[1802] ;B[eh]BL[845] ;W[fi]WL[1780] ;B[fh]BL[839] ;W[ig]WL[1766] ;B[hf]BL[837] ;W[gf]WL[1765] ;B[hg]BL[837] ;W[gg]WL[1764] ;B[hh]BL[837] ;W[gh]WL[1763]C[ dexmorgan 6d : heh dexmorgan 6d : f12 surely mistake dexmorgan 6d : had to play h14 ] ;B[ge]BL[807] ;W[hd]WL[1760]C[ dexmorgan 6d : b eyeshape issues.. ] ;B[bd]BL[758] ;W[bf]WL[1687]C[ Sandmann 4d?: 8ehm ] ;B[ei]BL[721] ;W[ej]WL[1684] ;B[ee]BL[511]C[ Sandmann 4d?: scary ] ;W[di]WL[1376] ;B[dh]BL[465] ;W[hi]WL[1246] ;B[ih]BL[462]C[ dexmorgan 6d : whats the closing move for w dexmorgan 6d : J8? dexmorgan 6d : and if played , how is the counting? :) ] ;W[jl]WL[989]C[ dexmorgan 6d : p2 is huge dexmorgan 6d : what i dont like about k8 is black j9 ] ;B[ik]BL[304]C[ pilgrim 2d+: j8 seems better now for w ] ;W[re]WL[942] ;B[se]BL[299]C[ dexmorgan 6d : wtf lol dexmorgan 6d : w can make a magic ko somehow ? dexmorgan 6d : nothing there.. darkfate 10k?: a14 doesn't work? dexmorgan 6d : there is d17 dexmorgan 6d : to get a17 sente ] ;W[jk]WL[783]C[ dexmorgan 6d : or just a17 directly ] ;B[ii]BL[274] ;W[gi]WL[779]C[ dexmorgan 6d : maybe black f15 is sente dexmorgan 6d : oh black F17 tesuji ? ] ;B[fd]BL[151] ;W[fc]WL[775] ;B[hj]BL[146] ;W[jj]WL[771] ;B[ij]BL[139] ;W[ef]WL[729] ;B[dc]BL[125] ;W[ec]WL[727] ;B[db]BL[100] ;W[cb]WL[708] ;B[ac]BL[95] ;W[eb]WL[659] ;B[bb]BL[91] ;W[da]WL[658] ;B[ff]BL[91] ;W[fg]WL[657] ;B[eg]BL[90] ;W[fe]WL[656] ;B[df]BL[90] ;W[gd]WL[646]C[ pilgrim 2d+: c13 seki, right? ] ;B[bg]BL[70] ;W[or]WL[626]C[ pilgrim 2d+: ah...alive dexmorgan 6d : mm dexmorgan 6d : h7 is huge dexmorgan 6d : but r3 also.. hard to count.. dexmorgan 6d : somehow i feel h7 is bigger ] ;B[hm]BL[29] ;W[qq]WL[625] ;B[qp]BL[27] ;W[rq]WL[624] ;B[rp]BL[27] ;W[oq]WL[623] ;B[pp]BL[26] ;W[im]WL[622] ;B[gl]BL[577] ;W[hn]WL[619] ;B[gm]BL[572] ;W[rr]WL[610] ;B[gn]BL[569] ;W[ho]WL[608] ;B[rg]BL[485]C[ pilgrim 2d+: e3 for b? ] ;W[lb]WL[549] ;B[le]BL[477] ;W[lc]WL[531] ;B[lg]BL[474] ;W[sp]WL[510] ;B[so]BL[471] ;W[sq]WL[510] ;B[rn]BL[471]C[ dexmorgan 6d : lol 3 too much ] ;W[kj]WL[493]C[ dexmorgan 6d : white managed to close both sides ] ;B[lk]BL[459] ;W[lj]WL[486] ;B[mj]BL[457] ;W[li]WL[484] ;B[mi]BL[451]C[ BABA 5k?: 3 ? dexmorgan 6d : game is much closer than it should be pilgrim 2d+: yes ] ;W[em]WL[350]C[ pilgrim 2d+: w wins because of better yose pilgrim 2d+: I think b submitted too many times to w small sente moves dexmorgan 6d : no kidding, black can lose this game lol dexmorgan 6d : i just did a sloppy yose and got W+1.5 pilgrim 2d+: me w+3 pilgrim 2d+: 100 for b ] ;B[go]BL[322] ;W[gp]WL[346] ;B[en]BL[314] ;W[dn]WL[319] ;B[el]BL[256] ;W[dm]WL[304]C[ Marvin42 1k+: why did b play n11? ] ;B[eo]BL[249]C[ dexmorgan 6d : cuz w can play n11.. FreeDoom 2d?: really close game seems dexmorgan 6d : very and magically i get w slightly ahead BABA 5k?: isn't white winning big ? dexmorgan 6d : nobody is winning big nything BABA 5k?: when counting naively I get 20 points more for white FreeDoom 2d?: you count top right dead? dexmorgan 6d : m19 is worth 2 in reverse sente dexmorgan 6d : white should play it now BABA 5k?: ok I thought top right was alive :) dexmorgan 6d : because if he plays e4 black will play it ] ;W[la]WL[160] ;B[kg]BL[244] ;W[ep]WL[157]C[ FreeDoom 2d?: top left ko may be game deciding dexmorgan 6d : b probably a18 now ] ;B[dl]BL[223] ;W[cl]WL[152] ;B[ab]BL[222] ;W[dk]WL[69] ;B[fk]BL[206] ;W[ll]WL[24]C[ dexmorgan 6d : ok dexmorgan 6d : i see black +1.5 dexmorgan 6d : D8 was god dexmorgan 6d : good dexmorgan 6d : i have my doubts about d9 ] ;B[ba]BL[160] ;W[kl]WL[22] ;B[mk]BL[158]C[ dexmorgan 6d : probably better to m8 directly, and aim at g9 ] ;W[ah]WL[1] ;B[ag]BL[149] ;W[ai]WL[600] ;B[il]BL[133] ;W[gj]WL[592] ;B[gk]BL[132] ;W[fo]WL[576] ;B[fn]BL[125] ;W[fp]WL[575]C[ dexmorgan 6d : yeah 1.5 unavoidable ] ;B[ff]BL[567] ;W[ek]WL[515] ;B[fl]BL[559] ;W[ef]WL[514] ;B[in]BL[544] ;W[jm]WL[513] ;B[ff]BL[543] ;W[ro]WL[507] ;B[qo]BL[535] ;W[ef]WL[506] ;B[hp]BL[530] ;W[io]WL[501] ;B[ff]BL[529] ;W[sc]WL[498] ;B[sd]BL[525] ;W[ef]WL[495] ;B[jo]BL[524] ;W[jn]WL[488] ;B[ff]BL[523] ;W[sn]WL[487] ;B[sm]BL[522] ;W[ef]WL[486] ;B[ip]BL[521]C[ dexmorgan 6d : b easily wins ko ] ;W[in]WL[483] ;B[ff]BL[520]C[ Plana17 1d?: tru dat ] ;W[na]WL[468] ;B[pa]BL[511] ;W[ef]WL[466] ;B[qs]BL[506]C[ dexmorgan 6d : r1 ] ;W[ps]WL[464] ;B[ff]BL[503] ;W[pb]WL[456] ;B[ob]BL[497] ;W[ef]WL[454] ;B[rs]BL[491] ;W[ss]WL[453] ;B[ff]BL[489]C[ dexmorgan 6d : c7 is also kothreat ] ;W[fj]WL[414] ;B[ji]BL[469]C[ Marvin42 1k+: also, j17 looks like a threat dexmorgan 6d : its not ] ;W[ef]WL[349] ;B[ki]BL[455] ;W[ff]WL[347] ;B[fm]BL[451] ;W[do]WL[599] ;B[lh]BL[447] ;W[ca]WL[598] ;B[ld]BL[442]C[ dexmorgan 6d : 1.5 ] ;W[tt]WL[595] ;B[tt]BL[440] ;W[tt]WL[595]C[ FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ R10 Roln 6d?: Roln dead @ L4 FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ P11 FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ Q13 Roln 6d?: Roln dead @ K5 FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ P16 Roln 6d?: Roln dead @ J4 FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ J16 FreddaSWE 5d?: FreddaSWE dead @ B14 FreddaSWE done ]; TW[as][ar][aq][ap][ao][an][am][al][ak][aj][bs][br][bq][bp][bo][bn][bm][bl] [bk][cs][cr][cq][cp][cn][cm][ck][ds][dr][dq][dc][db][es][er][eq][ea][fs] [fr][fq][fd][fb][fa][gs][gr][ge][gb][ga][hs][hr][hq][hp][hc][hb][ha][is] [ir][iq][ip][id][ic][ib][ia][js][jr][jq][jp][jo][jb][ja][ks][kr][kq][kp] [ko][kn][km][kb][ka][ls][lr][lq][ms][mr][ns][nr][os][qs][qr][rs][sr] TB[af][ae][ad][aa][bf][be][cg][cf][dg][hl][hk][ig][jh][jf][kf][lf][mf][no] [nn][nm][nl][nk][nj][ni][nh][ng][ne][nd][nb][na][oo][on][om][ol][ok][oj] [oi][oh][og][od][oc][oa][po][pn][pm][pl][pj][pg][pc][pb][qn][qm][ql][qj] [qi][qg][qf][qd][qc][qb][qa][ro][rm][rl][rk][rj][ri][re][rb][ra][sn][sl] [sk][sj][si][sh][sg][sf][sc][sa] OS[agape][AkinfeevK][Alingo][AltaNar][Anders2009] [apaz][BABA][bau1][baykush][betterlife] [booobby][bosatu55][boudu][breakfast][breeze] [bygan][chollas][Chur][darkfate][dexmorgan] [DiKill][droid][EasY][EasyRider][ExplO] [fangang][Fede][FinderHope][flashback][fosil] [FreeDoom][gg][Gil][gokichi123][gooooo] [guta57][Hanyou][hikaru2001][Hikaru85][Hitokiri] [hpilot][im12141004][Imperator][Jackieusa][Janne] [Jenia][joachim][jonick][Kaho][kaka09] [KaninSWE][karo][Kartex][kazuhisa69][kpeace] [Krysa][lazer][LeT][Letsgo888][Linux] [Luter][MadMoxxi][madmurdock][magicalben][Marvin42] [mayweed][mgr][mh315][Miguldir][mine123] [mingh88][ngarry][nhchyy][Nijawara][nikbary] [NMotoki][Nuttajaka][Partiellgo][Pegaseo][pel] [pilgrim][Plana17][pogacsa][pollybis][ppm5] [prion][quirck][rakkhun][rogue][s600] [SAIGOTO][Sakae][Sandmann][Seishiru][siba] [siljan][silvermoon][takuyans][tiaxSWE][Tommyray] [Trimms][tsukishima][TuchTheSky][vindobona][Vladslava] [vyborg][wano][Wayarus][weaker][xxx777] [Yuki1378] )