
(;AP[GOWrite:3.0.15]SZ[19]ST[0]CA[UTF-8]GM[1]FF[4]RR[Normal]WR[6d]CP[Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2018 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice.]GN[ ]PW[Thomas Debarre]EV[Internet Go Server game\: TeamChamp4 vs TeamChamp4]KM[6.500000]PB[Stanislaw Frejlak]RE[W+6.5 ]PC[IGS\: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]PM[2]TM[0]NW[37]US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET]NB[37]FG[259:]DT[2018-07-28 ]BR[7d]
;BL[0.0]B[dd];W[dp]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[pd];W[qp]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[oq];W[pn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cq];W[dq]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cp];W[do]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cn];W[co]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bo];W[dn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cm];W[bn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bp];W[cl]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bm];W[dm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bl];W[jp]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[qf];W[pq]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[pl];W[op]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: q8 seems a bit odd, too close?]BL[0.0]B[jo]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: i suppose q6 is also too close
Uberdude 3d \: once white gets p4]W[io]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[kp];W[ko]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[jn];W[kn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ip];W[jq]WL[0.0]
;C[hermit 2k?\: i quite like oddity of q8]BL[0.0]B[km]
;W[lp]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[jm]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: so i suppose o7 now and it links up]W[ho]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[kc]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: i feel l17 tenuki dubious, black wants to connect weak stones to strength, even ifthat allows white first into top side
Uberdude 3d \: otherwise k5 etc can just be bad exchanges giving away territory]W[pj]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[nl];W[nj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[kj];W[lj]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: l7 should have been h5 says LZ]BL[0.0]B[kk]
;W[ml]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[kq];W[kr]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ln];W[lq]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: black is making too many bad exchanges to connect up
Uberdude 3d \: j3 sente made g6 a valuable move, not so now]BL[0.0]B[mk]
;C[hermit 2k?\: you were right about L17
hermit 2k?\: all this happened because of it]W[lk]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[ll];W[mm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[mj];W[nk]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: but white's move was biggest msitake of the game so far and gives lead back to black
hermit 2k?\: which move do you mean?
Uberdude 3d \: still, that is a big territory, so for these players i don't think w is sad
Uberdude 3d \: o9
Uberdude 3d \: last move]BL[0.0]B[li]
;C[hermit 2k?\: was it that bad? I thought it was very good \:)
TeamChamp4 9d?\: what would you suggest?
Uberdude 3d \: extend
TeamChamp4 9d?\: is the disconnection of the o8-stones so bad?
Uberdude 3d \: if black n11 it is similar trade but black much worse aji as stones still on board]W[pk]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: maybe white didn't like prospect of black o9 connect]BL[0.0]B[ol]
;W[nn]WL[0.0]
;C[hermit 2k?\: hm]BL[0.0]B[ql]
;W[rk]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: w should have m11 i agree
Uberdude 3d \: but b shouldnt fight here either and the lead back to w]BL[0.0]B[rl]
;W[ri]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: LZ suggests r11 sacrifice instead of p8
Uberdude 3d \: this is why white q9 at r11 better]BL[0.0]B[qh]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: whith m11 even m7 would have been sente]W[nh]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[ng];W[mh]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: b seal is too thin now
Uberdude 3d \: had a chance to r11 instead of r8 too]BL[0.0]B[lf]
;W[og]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: so now s13 is the tesuji, will Thomas find it?]BL[0.0]B[nf]
;C[hermit 2k?\: even if he doesn`t i don`t know how could black come back to the game here]W[pg]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: white invades top left and black kills him
Uberdude 3d \: quite plausible =)
hermit 2k?\: \:-Uberdude 3d \: if white captures the stick here in a bad way, with black getting many sente on outside]BL[0.0]B[qg]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: then need to be very careful on top side
Uberdude 3d \: this is a good wedge]W[mf]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: r17 now would b a cheeky probe
Uberdude 3d \: but maybe black would ignore]BL[0.0]B[me]
;W[mg]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: l112 go out?
aldissimo 1d?\: l12]BL[0.0]B[ne]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: a bit, l13]W[kh]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: black still seal but w gain libs]BL[0.0]B[kg]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: k12 k11 j12 l11 h10
hermit 2k?\: and then whites invasion, and then - kill]W[lh]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[jh];W[ji]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ih];W[ki]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: hard to say if w or b is better here
Uberdude 3d \: LZ says W, with d17 as invasion point
Uberdude 3d \: the 3-4 attach to make it attempt to force blocking 3-3 invasion wrong way is an easy thing to learn form bots
Uberdude 3d \: often comes up in game
Uberdude 3d \: ah, now LZ finds k17 attach
Uberdude 3d \: still there is enough fighting remaining that game still chances for b
hermit 2k?\: d17 might be risky, black could get a lot on a side
Uberdude 3d \: but if white is calm and not greedy and good game control, will be tough]BL[0.0]B[hj]
;W[cc]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[dc];W[cd]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ce];W[be]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cf];W[bf]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[cg];W[db]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[eb];W[cb]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[fc]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: this is definitely calm, so thomas says he wants to avoid giving siasio a chance to use his good fighting skills and just go to endgame
Uberdude 3d \: g8 best local answer, but s12 #1
Uberdude 3d \: i suppose that starts liberty race so changes j9 cut aji
hermit 2k?\: is it still possible to enforce white to kill that stick?
aldissimo 1d?\: you think w still ahead? if he have to capture black he will loose so many points
Uberdude 3d \: too hard for me to judge, but LZ prefers W still
hermit 2k?\: i prefer white too, but i`m just human \;-)
Uberdude 3d \: the m15 cut is a good probe to comobo with r17, because as you say at this point b doesn't want to lose m14 stones to force semedori
Uberdude 3d \: if white can keep game simple I bet on him, but if chaos errupts i bet on b
Uberdude 3d \: q11 also a good move
Uberdude 3d \: reduce w libs and ensure m10 eye in case of j9
aldissimo 1d?\: there is also aji at r16
Uberdude 3d \: yeah, q11 helps deal with that
Uberdude 3d \: but making the q14 p14 liberties threaten snapback
Uberdude 3d \: worth spending time on this move]W[fj]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: b was counting maybe]BL[0.0]B[fh]
;W[hk]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ik];W[hl]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[gj];W[fk]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[rh]
;C[hermit 2k?\: score estimator is very generous for black but even it says it`s just 2 points for black]W[ck]WL[0.0]
;C[KaC 1d?\: what happened in surma game?]BL[0.0]B[lo]
;C[hermit 2k?\: Dai Junfu has resigned]W[fi]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[gh]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: can't agree with this wimpy move!
aldissimo 1d?\: he do a big mistake in the end
Uberdude 3d \: this is not siasio style
KaC 1d?\: where can i find reluts from yesterday?
TeamChamp4 9d?\: https\://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/draw/81]W[dr]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: taking? is that sente?
hermit 2k?\: is it sente?]BL[0.0]B[kp]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: ^^]W[bk]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[cr];W[cs]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bs];W[ds]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[no];W[oo]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[br]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: black should ghave got c2 and 1st line sente yose
Uberdude 3d \: and r11 and s6 for semedori
Uberdude 3d \: isntead of l4 for example]W[dh]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[ch];W[di]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: or b2]BL[0.0]B[dg]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: prevent s6 very big]W[rm]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: s10 now]BL[0.0]B[sl]
;W[pi]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[hm];W[gm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[hn];W[gn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[rj];W[sj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[qj];W[qi]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[qk];W[si]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ok];W[oj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[mi];W[ni]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ci];W[cj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[eh];W[bg]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ei];W[dj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bh];W[sh]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[sg];W[sf]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[rg];W[pf]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[pe];W[qe]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[re];W[ph]WL[0.0]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: can w tennuki now?
hermit 2k?\: yes
aldissimo 1d?\: it maybe aji at s6
hermit 2k?\: but even if black had sente, what could he do?
KaC 1d?\: ye s6 looks like a problem]BL[0.0]B[qd]
;W[nm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[mo]
;C[aldissimo 1d?\: ha w takes no risk]W[np]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[ej];W[ek]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ag];W[af]WL[0.0]
;C[hermit 2k?\: white can a16 just to make it shorter]BL[0.0]B[ak]
;W[ah]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bj];W[ai]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[aj];W[il]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ii];W[jj]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[jk];W[qm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ko];W[kq]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[mp];W[mq]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[gk];W[gl]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[da];W[ca]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[ea];W[gi]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[hi];W[bc]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: so b2 was the final losing move
Uberdude 3d \: no chances after that]BL[0.0]B[of]
;W[lg]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[kf]
;C[hermit 2k?\: yeah, i wonder what idea was behind of l4]W[sm]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[jl];W[pm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[bi];W[ag]WL[0.0]
;C[Uberdude 3d \: scared of j10 cut i guess
Zudko 4k \: est ce que quelqu'un connait le rüüsultat des autres tables?
Uberdude 3d \: but extending liberties for the semedpri would have fixed that
Moscau 4d?\: https\://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/draw/81
Surcouf 2k?\: l4 for yose
hermit 2k?\: so the game was decided by l17 \;-)]BL[0.0]B[ij]
;W[mn]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[in];W[lm]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[im]
;C[TeamChamp4 9d?\: Stanislaw aiming for g5]W[tt]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[go]
;C[TeamChamp4 9d?\: here we go]W[hp]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[fn]
;C[Morziloeil 10k?\: ?
TeamChamp4 9d?\: there is nothing, is there?
bomluffy76 4k+\: For what?
Morziloeil 10k?\: G5 does not seem promising
Moscau 4d?\: just count ^^ and add a move
Moscau 4d?\: but yeah there is nothing]W[fl]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[fo]
;C[KaC 1d?\: what are the results on boards 3&4?]W[gq]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[fq];W[fr]WL[0.0];BL[0.0]B[gr]
;C[Moscau 4d?\: very impolite]W[hr]WL[0.0]
;BL[0.0]B[tt]
;C[hermit 2k?\: it`s hot in Europe, hallucinnations can happen
TeamChamp4 9d?\: counting in progress
TeamChamp4 9d?\: well these rooms are climatized \:P
TeamChamp4 9d?\: Jigo on board, w+6.5
Moscau 4d?\: gg thomas
Motoki 6d?\: bravo thomas !!
hermit 2k?\: thanks for relay
TeamChamp4 9d?\: you're welcome]W[tt]WL[0.0]
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