(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: bteuber vs ThomasD] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2017 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[bteuber-ThomasD(B) IGS]RE[W+Resign] PW[bteuber]WR[7d ]NW[35] PB[ThomasD]BR[6d?]NB[34] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2017-03-29] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] C[ ThomasD 6d?: 19 hi bteuber 7d : 19 Hi ThomasD 6d?: 19 have a nice game ] ;B[qd]BL[3591] ;W[dp]WL[3567]C[ pingu007 1d?: hi there ] ;B[pq]BL[3571]C[ pingu007 1d?: quelqu'un connait le résultat de la partie de Ben qui se jouait cet aprèm? bteuber 7d : 19 did you get my change komi request? -5.5 might be a bit hard :D joachim 1d+: Ben won by 5.5. ] ;W[dc]WL[3529]C[ bteuber 7d : 19 anyhow we can still correct afterwards just in case bteuber 7d : 19 and a nice game for you, too :) ThomasD 6d?: 19 ah sorry didn't get it bteuber 7d : 19 hm these developers :p ThomasD 6d?: 19 haha :p ] ;B[de]BL[3515] ;W[oc]WL[3427] ;B[ld]BL[3411] ;W[qo]WL[3272]C[ gogonuts 5d?: Master made 5-3 great again ] ;B[pc]BL[3295] ;W[pe]WL[3216] ;B[pd]BL[3249] ;W[md]WL[3052]C[ pingu007 1d?: thx joachim gogonuts 5d?: looks a little better for w to me ] ;B[od]BL[3112]C[ joachim 1d+: because it looks messy? gogonuts 5d?: lol gogonuts 5d?: m15 should be good ] ;W[le]WL[2896]C[ gogonuts 5d?: if then n17/o16/o17/m17/L16/L17 ladders are good for w gogonuts 5d?: and if L16/n17 now d17 looks nicely placed ] ;B[kd]BL[2942] ;W[ke]WL[2766]C[ gogonuts 5d?: hm leader1 3d+: N17? gogonuts 5d?: what is ws plan against n17? gogonuts 5d?: I think L15 is an overplay Morziloeil 10k?: a trump wall ? gogonuts 5d?: lol gogonuts 5d?: big and beautiful or full of holes? ] ;B[mc]BL[2795]C[ leader1 3d+: If I play I will O16 ] ;W[me]WL[2744]C[ gogonuts 5d?: what is this? gogonuts 5d?: b can k16 gogonuts 5d?: b thinking: is there a trick? leader1 3d+: K16is good gogonuts 5d?: this looks pretty awful for w ] ;B[jd]BL[2706]C[ gogonuts 5d?: w thinking: what have I done? ] ;W[if]WL[2703]C[ leader1 3d+: O14? Cuddlebear 1d+: w wall questionable gogonuts 5d?: I'm pretty sure b should answer, but where? gogonuts 5d?: g17 maybe Morziloeil 10k?: i like G17 ] ;B[fd]BL[2507]C[ Cuddlebear 1d+: probably j16 looks fine but isnt =) gogonuts 5d?: I think w has to play it and see what happens gogonuts 5d?: see if b brings bad aji upon himself leader1 3d+: F18 need to answer gogonuts 5d?: w is hoping to activate o17 gogonuts 5d?: playing for the corner stone jsut doesn't look interesting for w gogonuts 5d?: he might do it anyways, and hope for a later chance in the game leader1 3d+: O17 is hopeless so far gogonuts 5d?: well if w gets h16 and h18 that changes ] ;W[oe]WL[2456]C[ gogonuts 5d?: a reasonable move ] ;B[rf]BL[2465]C[ gogonuts 5d?: but b clearly ahaed gogonuts 5d?: h16 got less interesting now for w gogonuts 5d?: I really don't see a good plan for w gogonuts 5d?: w will need b help ] ;W[fc]WL[2262]C[ leader1 3d+: R13 for W? ] ;B[gc]BL[2458] ;W[gd]WL[2257] ;B[ec]BL[2404] ;W[fb]WL[2254] ;B[ed]BL[2374] ;W[eb]WL[2252] ;B[hc]BL[2370] ;W[dd]WL[2242]C[ gogonuts 5d?: h17 is already secure gogonuts 5d?: so c15 should be ok for b ] ;B[ee]BL[2210] ;W[ce]WL[2232] ;B[cf]BL[2209]C[ gogonuts 5d?: e15 is the joseki shape, but that looks like a concession to me gogonuts 5d?: so hard to play well when ahead ... ] ;W[bd]WL[2180] ;B[be]BL[2207] ;W[cd]WL[2180] ;B[dg]BL[2196]C[ gogonuts 5d?: w almost looking ok again gogonuts 5d?: that was fast gogonuts 5d?: c7 now? Morziloeil 10k?: O4? gogonuts 5d?: taisha always an option :-) ] ;W[op]WL[1996] ;B[oq]BL[2184] ;W[np]WL[1985] ;B[mq]BL[2170] ;W[mp]WL[1977] ;B[lq]BL[2167] ;W[lp]WL[1976]C[ leader1 3d+: Q13 now? ] ;B[kp]BL[2094] ;W[nq]WL[1908] ;B[nr]BL[2049] ;W[ko]WL[1906] ;B[jo]BL[1960] ;W[or]WL[1901] ;B[mr]BL[1953] ;W[qq]WL[1900] ;B[pr]BL[1913] ;W[jp]WL[1898] ;B[kq]BL[1911] ;W[kn]WL[1897]C[ gogonuts 5d?: I think b L6 instead of q2 was better gogonuts 5d?: w would have been reluctant to allow the ponnuki ] ;B[pj]BL[1794] ;W[ip]WL[1880] ;B[cn]BL[1707] ;W[dk]WL[1798]C[ leader1 3d+: Q13 now? Morziloeil 10k?: C6 really lonely gogonuts 5d?: you mean r13? gogonuts 5d?: I also think b will do something with c6 leader1 3d+: yes, otherwise attact Q10 will gain a lot gogonuts 5d?: c3 or e6 or e8 gogonuts 5d?: e8 looks most positive, but b has been trying to avoid any complications leader1 3d+: E8 ] ;B[el]BL[1254]C[ gogonuts 5d?: just looked too nice :-) ] ;W[ek]WL[1773]C[ Cuddlebear 1d+: well, i admit: looks nice after it i one the board but stupid me never would have played e8 ] ;B[fl]BL[1230] ;W[fk]WL[1764] ;B[gl]BL[1199] ;W[dl]WL[1733] ;B[dm]BL[1154]C[ leader1 3d+: Now W no territory, behind already ] ;W[en]WL[1589] ;B[em]BL[1102]C[ BerndR 5d : I think w is not bad. b possibly has 3 weak groups. w territory can still appear by attacking ] ;W[hd]WL[1501] ;B[id]BL[1036] ;W[gf]WL[1498]C[ gogonuts 5d?: I think it's tough for w ] ;B[fg]BL[971]C[ Cuddlebear 1d+: which is third black weak group? Welvang 5d : Pretty sure black is better, but it's still beginning everything can happen ] ;W[ch]WL[1447]C[ gogonuts 5d?: f13 is "shape", but I think f12 was better Welvang 5d : I spoil : white wall die at the end gogonuts 5d?: lol leader1 3d+: hehe leader1 3d+: still complicated so far ] ;B[dh]BL[840]C[ Morziloeil 10k?: G9 will hurt BerndR 5d : @Cuddlebear: the b hoshi on the right (q10) gogonuts 5d?: I expect b h12 after w answers Cuddlebear 1d+: thx Bernd, didnt judge that as a "group"... ] ;W[ci]WL[1357]C[ gogonuts 5d?: f13 sure would be nicer at f12 now ... gogonuts 5d?: I know that doesn't really count :-) ] ;B[gg]BL[686] ;W[hg]WL[1333]C[ gogonuts 5d?: I don't agree with g13 gogonuts 5d?: the w bulge is very nice shape ] ;B[gi]BL[638]C[ gogonuts 5d?: the problem is that closing w in wont kill ] ;W[gk]WL[1298] ;B[hh]BL[599] ;W[co]WL[1285]C[ gogonuts 5d?: aggressive w gogonuts 5d?: I don't blame him gogonuts 5d?: a chance to throw the dice leader1 3d+: still need to answer for C5, leader1 3d+: F6? ] ;B[bo]BL[431] ;W[bp]WL[1275] ;B[do]BL[426] ;W[cp]WL[1273] ;B[eo]BL[423] ;W[fq]WL[1250]C[ leader1 3d+: good move! leader1 3d+: for B ] ;B[hk]BL[356]C[ leader1 3d+: b run out of time soon ] ;W[bg]WL[1140] ;B[bf]BL[317]C[ leader1 3d+: J8? ] ;W[bm]WL[1084] ;B[bn]BL[297] ;W[hj]WL[1080] ;B[ij]BL[143] ;W[ik]WL[1041] ;B[hl]BL[128] ;W[ii]WL[1039] ;B[gj]BL[70]C[ gogonuts 5d?: b missed the timing for J13? ] ;W[jj]WL[1034] ;B[bk]BL[66]C[ gogonuts 5d?: oh gogonuts 5d?: looks like b read that out gogonuts 5d?: I don't see w eyes ] ;W[bl]WL[918]C[ gogonuts 5d?: expecting c10 gogonuts 5d?: I take that back gogonuts 5d?: it's tricky for both gogonuts 5d?: what happens on b a7? ] ;B[bj]BL[383]C[ gogonuts 5d?: w c9? ] ;W[ck]WL[832] ;B[cm]BL[370] ;W[cl]WL[823] ;B[ag]BL[329] ;W[ah]WL[704] ;B[cg]BL[272] ;W[af]WL[692] ;B[ae]BL[261] ;W[bi]WL[677] ;B[ag]BL[257] ;W[ak]WL[597]C[ gogonuts 5d?: didn't b b11 instead of blocking at a15 work? ] ;B[am]BL[234] ;W[af]WL[594]C[ gogonuts 5d?: w would have to b12 ] ;B[fp]BL[224]C[ gogonuts 5d?: then b just cuts with c10 ] ;W[gq]WL[557]C[ gogonuts 5d?: one w side will be a lib short then, imo ] ;B[ag]BL[221] ;W[fn]WL[555] ;B[gn]BL[196]C[ gogonuts 5d?: ah my bad , w would block directly ] ;W[af]WL[528]C[ gogonuts 5d?: and then take one of the 3 b libs gogonuts 5d?: I stupidly looked at w a15 ] ;B[gp]BL[173] ;W[ho]WL[503] ;B[eq]BL[121] ;W[ep]WL[500]C[ gogonuts 5d?: w time trouble getting serious ] ;B[er]BL[117] ;W[fo]WL[472]C[ gopard 2d?: b ] ;B[go]BL[105]C[ gogonuts 5d?: sry, yes ] ;W[dn]WL[469] ;B[hp]BL[55] ;W[hq]WL[444] ;B[hn]BL[54] ;W[iq]WL[408] ;B[cr]BL[47]C[ gogonuts 5d?: this game once again proves that trying to keep it simple isn't worth the trouble ] ;W[il]WL[365] ;B[in]BL[29] ;W[io]WL[312] ;B[jn]BL[27] ;W[jm]WL[308] ;B[fr]BL[25] ;W[im]WL[299]; OS[Alonzo][Andante][ASANN][BAM0][BenjaminDG] [BerndR][crottmann][Cuddlebear][duonrep][DUX9er] [Eastlake][Elena94][EPGC][ExplO][fj] [fuha10][Gandalf][gogonuts][gomer5][gopard] [grenouille][heisenberg][hewa][hfz][hide80] [Hoover][jer][joachim][jogo23][jusi] [keks][kituka][kksmun][klaus9][Kylar] [leader1][Liso][midoc][Morziloeil][neilsharp] [Nogravity][ottopanini][pingu007][pwm][RemiCa] [roseduke][rvf][s123456789][sasakuma][schubidu] [serieux][sheeryjay][ss1][Superkladd][tech55] [tyfoon1][wang5598][Welvang][wtapen][yakibox] [Yuchan] )