(; GM[1]EV[Internet Go Server game: Ergo2012 vs breeze] US[Brought to you by IGS PANDANET] CoPyright[ Copyright (c) PANDANET Inc. 2015 Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding and agreement of this notice. ] GN[Ergo2012-breeze(B) IGS]RE[B+3.5] PW[Ergo2012]WR[5d?]NW[33] PB[breeze]BR[6d?]NB[34] PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969]DT[2015-11-11] SZ[19]TM[3600]KM[6.500000]LT[] RR[Normal] C[ breeze 6d?: 1 Have a nice game ] ;B[qd]BL[3578]C[ Ergo2012 5d?: 1 I´m assuming everything is correct now. Good luck! ] ;W[dc]WL[3589] ;B[pq]BL[3553] ;W[od]WL[3556] ;B[cp]BL[3537] ;W[ce]WL[3507] ;B[oc]BL[3378] ;W[nc]WL[3315] ;B[pc]BL[3366] ;W[nd]WL[3312] ;B[pe]BL[3311] ;W[jd]WL[3301] ;B[qk]BL[3300] ;W[ep]WL[3293] ;B[gq]BL[3267] ;W[cq]WL[3234] ;B[cm]BL[3235] ;W[gr]WL[3172] ;B[dp]BL[3148] ;W[dq]WL[3164] ;B[fq]BL[3086] ;W[eq]WL[3114] ;B[fr]BL[3080] ;W[iq]WL[3032] ;B[go]BL[3068] ;W[mp]WL[3022] ;B[fm]BL[2916] ;W[bp]WL[2889] ;B[bo]BL[2899] ;W[bq]WL[2886] ;B[po]BL[2717] ;W[io]WL[2823] ;B[mn]BL[2506] ;W[fo]WL[2763] ;B[gn]BL[2446] ;W[ng]WL[2752] ;B[ph]BL[2375] ;W[dg]WL[2647] ;B[hc]BL[2312] ;W[ic]WL[2549] ;B[he]BL[2260] ;W[if]WL[2542] ;B[ib]BL[2247] ;W[jb]WL[2539] ;B[ec]BL[1944] ;W[dd]WL[2458] ;B[db]BL[1924] ;W[cb]WL[2454] ;B[gb]BL[1867] ;W[ia]WL[2424] ;B[ha]BL[1800] ;W[hb]WL[2418] ;B[dn]BL[1787] ;W[er]WL[2327] ;B[ib]BL[1779] ;W[ja]WL[2284] ;B[gg]BL[1750] ;W[ck]WL[2255] ;B[hq]BL[1335] ;W[ir]WL[2183] ;B[lq]BL[1284] ;W[lp]WL[1615] ;B[kq]BL[1094] ;W[hp]WL[1566] ;B[gp]BL[999] ;W[kp]WL[1393] ;B[or]BL[940] ;W[nr]WL[1297] ;B[nq]BL[897] ;W[mq]WL[1292] ;B[mr]BL[895] ;W[lr]WL[1291] ;B[ns]BL[894] ;W[kr]WL[1268] ;B[ci]BL[890] ;W[dj]WL[1258] ;B[di]BL[887] ;W[ei]WL[1256] ;B[bk]BL[860] ;W[bl]WL[1243] ;B[bj]BL[787] ;W[cl]WL[1239] ;B[ej]BL[740] ;W[ek]WL[1205] ;B[fj]BL[737] ;W[fk]WL[1200] ;B[eh]BL[720] ;W[gk]WL[1147] ;B[hm]BL[699]C[ janssensei 6d?: Die zwarte groep linksonder is wel erg zwak geworden. janssensei 6d?: Was dat een nieuwe joseki-zet linksonder? Of een misclick? vor09 4d?: g2 was wel een soort joseki finity 3k?: cool I feel like I understand Dutch Seagall 2d?: yea me too :) baldur 5d : it's easier to read than listen Seagall 2d?: :) GGroenen 5d?: If you know English and German, dutch should be easy janssensei 6d?: Nederlands is een universele taal finity 3k?: A bit like Finnish finity 3k?: Suomi on yleismaailmallinen kieli pempu 4d?: vitut pempu 4d?: jossei tuu banneja niin ei oo Seagall 2d?: and vor09 4d?: to an englishman they sound the same :) Seagall 2d?: perkele janssensei 6d?: Wit kan volgens mij zwart insluiten met een paardensprong janssensei 6d?: dat voelt niet goed pempu 4d?: sproingebob finity 3k?: haha paardensprong must be a keima ] ;W[fi]WL[536] ;B[gj]BL[695] ;W[gi]WL[529]C[ finity 3k?: because Shaak en go winkel het paard is a go store and I looked up that het paard is the knight Seagall 2d?: here we go ] ;B[hj]BL[692] ;W[hi]WL[528]C[ janssensei 6d?: Wauw finity 3k?: time for Ergo to cash in all the deposits janssensei 6d?: But is putting a lot of cash in front Legosoldat 4k?: What about nijlpaardensprong? janssensei 6d?: White should have played the kiema at the bottom before finity 3k?: Lego: maybe an oogeima? finity 3k?: or is it "nil" in the beginning? vor09 4d?: probably more like kosumi finity 3k?: limp horse jump? ] ;B[ii]BL[505]C[ finity 3k?: kosumi is probably rechtoppaardsprong ] ;W[hh]WL[457] ;B[bm]BL[477] ;W[il]WL[442] ;B[ij]BL[451] ;W[hl]WL[438] ;B[al]BL[388] ;W[mk]WL[358] ;B[id]BL[380] ;W[jc]WL[349]C[ janssensei 6d?: links van die steen op9-7? baldur 5d : ik zie een ko linksonder GGroenen 5d?: waar zie jij dat ko, Baldur? baldur 5d : starting white e7 GGroenen 5d?: yes ] ;B[kk]BL[133]C[ GGroenen 5d?: but w can lose a lot in that ko baldur 5d : of course baldur 5d : have to wait :) ] ;W[dh]WL[292] ;B[eb]BL[74] ;W[bh]WL[244] ;B[jn]BL[63] ;W[kl]WL[232] ;B[ll]BL[44] ;W[km]WL[210] ;B[lk]BL[33]C[ GGroenen 5d?: b looks dead on the left sid GGroenen 5d?: b looks dead on the left side ] ;W[im]WL[156]C[ baldur 5d : i wonder... GGroenen 5d?: But Peter sees things I never see...... ] ;B[hr]BL[564] ;W[ao]WL[141]C[ GGroenen 5d?: like g2 :) ] ;B[an]BL[523]C[ GGroenen 5d?: Hmm GGroenen 5d?: no need to give away the two stones around c4 like that ] ;W[co]WL[87] ;B[ap]BL[519] ;W[do]WL[68] ;B[cn]BL[515] ;W[pk]WL[565] ;B[pj]BL[475] ;W[ok]WL[542] ;B[ql]BL[468] ;W[nn]WL[530] ;B[nm]BL[461] ;W[om]WL[486] ;B[no]BL[381] ;W[mm]WL[454] ;B[lm]BL[337] ;W[nl]WL[450] ;B[kn]BL[332] ;W[in]WL[446] ;B[mo]BL[328] ;W[fd]WL[398] ;B[ca]BL[306] ;W[bb]WL[380] ;B[ie]BL[257] ;W[gd]WL[356] ;B[je]BL[212] ;W[ih]WL[335] ;B[kh]BL[164] ;W[kg]WL[307] ;B[jg]BL[159] ;W[jh]WL[277] ;B[lg]BL[150]C[ baldur 5d : exciting ] ;W[kf]WL[234] ;B[kd]BL[138] ;W[lb]WL[222] ;B[jf]BL[131] ;W[lf]WL[213] ;B[mf]BL[107]C[ finity 3k?: hmm, what is happening? finity 3k?: H12 trade for G18 stones? Nitramf 6k : capturing race ] ;W[mg]WL[154]C[ Seagall 2d?: w trying to catch the big fish ] ;B[lh]BL[103] ;W[me]WL[145] ;B[ji]BL[54] ;W[fg]WL[139] ;B[ig]BL[47] ;W[fh]WL[137] ;B[hd]BL[42] ;W[pg]WL[122] ;B[of]BL[20] ;W[nf]WL[115]C[ finity 3k?: or catch up? what's the point situation? ] ;B[ff]BL[552] ;W[pn]WL[106]C[ baldur 5d : there's always a bigger fish :) prodi 5d?: i don't really understand what's going on ] ;B[qo]BL[501] ;W[oi]WL[56] ;B[ef]BL[493] ;W[eg]WL[44] ;B[og]BL[454] ;W[pd]WL[580]C[ prodi 5d?: maybe we'll see the e7 ko soon ] ;B[oh]BL[421]C[ GGroenen 5d?: w needs to play the ko because he is behind a lot ] ;W[pi]WL[556] ;B[qi]BL[376]C[ herminator 4d?: Gelmer won, so it's 1-2 now Seagall 2d?: so it's 2-1 for finland ] ;W[oj]WL[542] ;B[qj]BL[374]C[ finity 3k?: my estimate of 2-2 seems to being going like planned janssensei 6d?: Upper left black group is still ko, isn't it? ] ;W[qc]WL[471] ;B[nh]BL[359]C[ GGroenen 5d?: no GGroenen 5d?: b can take the two stones GGroenen 5d?: or connect the ko ] ;W[pl]WL[443]C[ janssensei 6d?: Why don't they play that ko? GGroenen 5d?: which ko ] ;B[qb]BL[318]C[ janssensei 6d?: I already see what I see wrong ] ;W[rc]WL[438] ;B[rb]BL[315]C[ GGroenen 5d?: ok ] ;W[nb]WL[419] ;B[pa]BL[306] ;W[ed]WL[417] ;B[hb]BL[288] ;W[em]WL[341]C[ prodi 5d?: there we go Seagall 2d?: here it comes! ] ;B[en]BL[282]C[ GGroenen 5d?: here we go ] ;W[fn]WL[339]C[ baldur 5d : \o/ ] ;B[el]BL[277]C[ janssensei 6d?: ko? ] ;W[fl]WL[316] ;B[dm]BL[270] ;W[gm]WL[314]C[ Seagall 2d?: ko for the game ] ;B[gl]BL[269] ;W[ge]WL[298]C[ baldur 5d : three ko threats ] ;B[gf]BL[260] ;W[gm]WL[296]C[ GGroenen 5d?: b cannot win the ko GGroenen 5d?: w needs a giant ko threat janssensei 6d?: This has been here for a very long time ] ;B[ch]BL[214] ;W[cg]WL[284] ;B[gl]BL[212] ;W[rd]WL[275] ;B[qe]BL[205] ;W[gm]WL[274] ;B[bg]BL[193] ;W[bf]WL[263] ;B[gl]BL[191] ;W[hg]WL[247] ;B[hf]BL[188] ;W[gm]WL[245] ;B[ag]BL[185] ;W[af]WL[224] ;B[gl]BL[182]C[ finity 3k?: F17? ] ;W[sb]WL[200]C[ prodi 5d?: what is this threat herminator 4d?: is this a threat? prodi 5d?: it does threaten to capture the stones GGroenen 5d?: b should connect the ko herminator 4d?: Big enough? GGroenen 5d?: I think so herminator 4d?: B gets H9 too ] ;B[ob]BL[502] ;W[gm]WL[196]C[ prodi 5d?: wow ] ;B[cj]BL[492]C[ GGroenen 5d?: that looks too small ] ;W[dk]WL[175] ;B[gl]BL[489] ;W[fc]WL[163]C[ finity 3k?: back to real threats prodi 5d?: t18 also lost points when black responded so that's kinda lame baldur 5d : a3 before the ko was advisable, i think ] ;B[lc]BL[354]C[ prodi 5d?: what is going on here GGroenen 5d?: w O19? ] ;W[gm]WL[566]C[ prodi 5d?: w ] ;B[mb]BL[328] ;W[mc]WL[561] ;B[gl]BL[315]C[ finity 3k?: new smaller ko at P19 soon? ] ;W[kb]WL[482] ;B[fb]BL[250] ;W[gm]WL[480] ;B[bi]BL[227]C[ prodi 5d?: uhh JeffChang 6d?: what? prodi 5d?: this is not a very good threat sakugo 3d?: that's an understatement ] ;W[ah]WL[391] ;B[gl]BL[225]C[ prodi 5d?: blah baldur 5d : i think white could have finished the ko JeffChang 6d?: of course hane prodi 5d?: yeah, a11 would have been gg JeffChang 6d?: then A9 as next ko threat ] ;W[ak]WL[351] ;B[gm]BL[195]C[ pempu 4d?: This looks like the same prodi 5d?: it's not youngpro 4d?: ah? JeffChang 6d?: No, w is in the trouble himself too ] ;W[am]WL[328]C[ JeffChang 6d?: so no longer a ko Seagall 2d?: no more threats ] ;B[eo]BL[176]C[ prodi 5d?: missed a golden opportunity here ] ;W[fp]WL[321] ;B[al]BL[174]C[ JeffChang 6d?: in fact worse JeffChang 6d?: w bottom is not alive right? prodi 5d?: ah, true pempu 4d?: W will connect? JeffChang 6d?: that is the right move, then b is alive in sente JeffChang 6d?: can w win it? ] ;W[ai]WL[248] ;B[am]BL[150] ;W[aq]WL[238] ;B[ao]BL[148] ;W[ls]WL[222] ;B[qm]BL[138] ;W[mj]WL[216] ;B[ke]BL[115] ;W[na]WL[202] ;B[oa]BL[113] ;W[op]WL[187] ;B[np]BL[98] ;W[oo]WL[185] ;B[ml]BL[90] ;W[nm]WL[183] ;B[ba]BL[69] ;W[qn]WL[178] ;B[rn]BL[67] ;W[pp]WL[175] ;B[qp]BL[66] ;W[ab]WL[159] ;B[ni]BL[63] ;W[nj]WL[158] ;B[li]BL[51] ;W[lj]WL[150] ;B[kj]BL[49] ;W[le]WL[144] ;B[jo]BL[592] ;W[jp]WL[131] ;B[hk]BL[590] ;W[aj]WL[129] ;B[dl]BL[578]C[ finity 3k?: I dread B+1.5 ] ;W[ld]WL[125] ;B[kc]BL[574] ;W[oe]WL[594] ;B[es]BL[554] ;W[ds]WL[591] ;B[is]BL[543] ;W[js]WL[589] ;B[gs]BL[541] ;W[df]WL[581] ;B[ee]BL[523] ;W[ms]WL[571] ;B[nr]BL[520] ;W[jk]WL[569] ;B[jm]BL[509] ;W[jl]WL[567] ;B[de]BL[502] ;W[cd]WL[538] ;B[jj]BL[484]C[ finity 3k?: why c16 and not this as white? ] ;W[fs]WL[522]C[ Seagall 2d?: damn shame the ko did nothing for w Seagall 2d?: paska ko ] ;B[ho]BL[472] ;W[ip]WL[517] ;B[es]BL[469] ;W[mi]WL[512] ;B[mh]BL[466] ;W[fs]WL[511] ;B[oq]BL[460] ;W[on]WL[509] ;B[es]BL[458] ;W[ro]WL[498] ;B[rm]BL[433] ;W[fs]WL[493] ;B[hs]BL[431] ;W[es]WL[490] ;B[da]BL[427] ;W[fe]WL[487] ;B[gc]BL[405]C[ prodi 5d?: yeah that ko went awry prodi 5d?: but oh well ] ;W[gh]WL[480] ;B[ln]BL[402] ;W[ko]WL[478] ;B[lo]BL[399] ;W[pm]WL[476] ;B[ik]BL[396] ;W[hn]WL[474] ;B[aa]BL[392] ;W[qq]WL[455] ;B[rp]BL[596]C[ finity 3k?: alright finity 3k?: nothing here I think, thoug ] ;W[qh]WL[437] ;B[qg]BL[589] ;W[rq]WL[421] ;B[so]BL[587] ;W[tt]WL[407] ;B[tt]BL[580] ;W[tt]WL[600]C[ breeze 6d?: breeze dead @ S3 breeze 6d?: breeze dead @ M3 Ergo2012 5d?: Ergo2012 dead @ N18 breeze 6d?: breeze dead @ S17 Ergo2012 5d?: Ergo2012 dead @ R12 breeze 6d?: breeze dead @ T18 breeze 6d?: breeze dead @ Q13 breeze done finity 3k?: gg ]; TW[as][ar][ag][ae][ad][ac][bs][br][bk][bj][bi][bg][be][bd][bc][cs][cr][cp] [cj][ci][ch][cf][cc][dr][dp][di][eh][jr][jq][ks][kq][ka][lq][la][mf][md] [mb][ma][nk][ne][ol] TB[bn][em][ea][fa][gr][ga][if][ki][os][ps][pr][pg][pf][pb][qs][qr][qq][qh] [qf][qc][qa][rs][rr][rq][ro][rl][rk][rj][ri][rh][rg][rf][re][rd][rc][ra] [ss][sr][sq][sp][sn][sm][sl][sk][sj][si][sh][sg][sf][se][sd][sc][sb][sa] OS[A65][abzu][Antoine][asyaru][baldur] [breakfast][CPop][EskilSWE][finity][Gardan] [Gelmer][GGroenen][gomarine][heisenberg][herminator] [Hius][Inushogun][janssensei][JeffChang][Kaneki] [Komeetta][korekarada][kornacker][Krainov][kuikka] [kyy][Legosoldat][lixn][mdcl][mienai] [newskye][Nitramf][Oni][pcrytt][pempu] [prodi][puzant][Rubenmc][sakugo][sanrei] [Seagall][Skeletor][Superkladd][tar0812][vor09] [Werfeus][Xagu2011][youngpro] )